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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #135 on: July 08, 2012, 04:28:10 pm »
I'd have to have access to all three volumes to debate effectively with you, I'd want to cite passages.  I've only got Tinker - if that - in my library.
Although the hoverbike stuff & tengu/half-oni thing really depends on that short story, and if you haven't read it, you're screwed.
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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #136 on: July 09, 2012, 07:46:37 am »
I'd have to have access to all three volumes to debate effectively with you, I'd want to cite passages.  I've only got Tinker - if that - in my library.
Although the hoverbike stuff & tengu/half-oni thing really depends on that short story, and if you haven't read it, you're screwed.

I'm not sure I understand - I was speaking only of things that happen in Elfhome. As described in that book, the hoverbike scenes and the early Tommy scenes were IMO, not smooth or clear. I have read the short stories, as well. In fact, I read them probably a week ago.

Overall, I loved Tinker and Wolf Who Rules, but I was sadly not as in love with Elfhome. I enjoyed the second half more than the first. I'll still read any subsequent books as Spencer definitely left room for more. I'll just hope that it's less spread out and it's more smooth writing/plotting.

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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #137 on: July 09, 2012, 07:56:06 am »
I'd agree it's not as smooth.  I do think that the hoverbike/half-oni reaction as displayed in this novel doesn't make sense if the "Blue Sky" (or whatever the title is) short isn't right in front of you too.  For me, I was following it, but... that may be the way my mind works more than anything else. 
And yes, there surely is a lot of room for more to happen in subsequent books.  There were a lot of people who were in the first two who never showed up, or barely, in this one.  Maynard, the high court, most of the humans!  I'm still looking for some of Nathan's family to show up with reactions to his death.  I still want to see Windwolf's parents come and meet their new daughter in law.  And the consequences of Tinker's video research and genetic access to different clan's power stones.
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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #138 on: September 17, 2012, 04:39:01 am »
Finished the Elfhome. I think the choppiness is due to the author putting several short stories together. I remember when the first part of the Tommy storyline was out as a short story. Looking forward to what she has planned next for this world.
 

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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2012, 08:30:08 am »
I still like her Ukiah Oregon series better.  I felt like a fish out of water when I read the Tinker series.  I didn't understand half of it and I kept loosing touch with who was who and what was going on.

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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #140 on: September 21, 2012, 08:39:13 am »
That's partly the long spaces between volumes coming out, I think, Mtomni.

I suspect she had Ukiah (who I also actually like better) all mapped out & 3/4 finished when she got the contract, so they could come out like nice neat presto logs, while the Tinker ones are more "oh, gosh, I actually sold more than one of these?  Um... what happens next?  What trouble can I throw them into?  What was it I said about the Team Blue Sky guys, the half oni, the tengu?  What about Tinker's mom?"  and scrambling to get it out.
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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #141 on: September 23, 2012, 05:55:54 am »
Thank you Patti.  It makes me feel better knowing I wasn't the only one.

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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #142 on: September 23, 2012, 08:43:32 am »
Well, part of it is that Ukiah knows he's out of the loop on a lot of stuff, and uncertain of himself, while Tinker knows she's a genius, and tends to be - well, arrogant, then furious when she has something happen that points up that she doesn't know quite so much, isn't actually as in control as she likes to believe.  I find her less relatable.  Besides the whole "1/3 my age and cute as a button" thing.  :P  That's more or less SOP with fiction, they're cute or pretty or beautiful, and/or well bred/monied.
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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #143 on: October 16, 2012, 01:58:36 pm »
New free short story set in the Tinker universe up at Baen: http://baen.com/PeaceOffering.asp


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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #144 on: October 16, 2012, 02:01:49 pm »
Oooo! Ahem....You can unplug the ears now the schoolgirl squee is done.  bOuNcY

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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #145 on: October 16, 2012, 02:14:53 pm »
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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #146 on: October 16, 2012, 02:27:10 pm »
I want to hit somebody for letting it go up with all those typos & so forth, though.
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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #147 on: October 17, 2012, 09:15:39 am »
There are? I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Bad publisher!


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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #148 on: October 17, 2012, 11:19:47 am »
Yep.  Missing connectors, wrong versions of certain words, if I recall.
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Re: Wen Spencer - Tinker & Wolf Who Rules
« Reply #149 on: October 19, 2012, 09:56:35 am »
Great story though, even with the typos. I hope Elfhome #4 is great. #3 seemed a little off to me.