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Home Improvement | Gray Discussion
« on: June 03, 2011, 10:51:18 pm »
Spoilers and speculation. A vampire returns to her first home, and finds more than the memories she was seeking.
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 06:30:01 am »
I think I'm most curious about this particular short story. I don't find any of the vampires other than Stefan to be sympathetic creatures. So I'm wondering a lot about this vampire. Will she be someone that I like, like Stefan? Or someone more similar to Marsilia or the other seethe members? Can't wait!
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 09:13:06 am »
Here's a thought;  Stefan seems to pick some fairly nice people for his menagerie; could this be someone he turned a decade or more ago?
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 09:19:38 am »
Interesting theory but isn't it sad though that any "good" vampires would only come from being around Stefan? I'd like to think there's something redeeming in them, I just haven't seen it yet.
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 09:24:14 am »
I . . . don't necessarily agree, Elle; Stefan had to come from somewhere; Marsilia turned him!  Also, the lesser vampires; some of them could be fairly nice, if they had as much free will as Stefan has.  But they're mostly held fairly tight by their creators. 
Which would lead to the question, if this is another "spontaneously nice" (for lack of a better term) vampire, why is she suddenly free to do this?
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 09:38:29 am »
For what I've seen of the vampires, other than Stefan, they just don't seem to be fairly nice to anyone. Even when Stefan was first turned and perhaps into quite a few of his centuries of unlife was enjoying bathing in the blood of his prey.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. They are vampires.

They just don't come across as sympathetic creatures to me. They seem to live in a constant state of strategy where I guess kindness to any creature is perceived as a weakness and weakness leads to defeat.

Stefan seems to have a very rigid code of honor and seems to live in the "now" rather than in the past like most of the vampires we've read about. I don't know what makes him different but he is...which leads me to wonder if "Gray" is different as well...and what they have in them that would make them so.

It could be a mute point. Maybe this character isn't sympathetic and like all the other bloodsuckers and Stefan is the odd man out.
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 09:51:22 am »
Yes, might be a moot point; this might be... part of the learning process for vampires; "you're not what you were, and there's no better proof than sending you 'home' to see."
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 06:02:50 pm »
I'm not as curious about this story as I am about the one with Warren in it.  I'm in the 'can't see vamps as sympathetic characters' camp.  I like Stefan, though, even if he's not my favorite.  And yet, I'm still looking forward to this story.  Darn you, curiosity!!!
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 04:34:41 pm »
This short story was heartrending!! Omg...so good but it totally made me weepy.  :-' :-'
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2011, 05:49:18 pm »
I can't afford to buy it yet, but paused in a book store to read it today.  I like E. Gray.  And John.   :D
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2011, 11:45:30 pm »
Wonder if the repairmen are going to start dropping by to have 'conversations' with her.  :-whistle

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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 08:03:25 am »
Do you mean conversations on perps that got away?

I keep going back to this story and it just kills me. So good.
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 09:42:45 am »
Yes, indeed I do.  :D

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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 09:47:30 am »
Heheh.  >D

Such a great story. I was wondering if Patty could give us another vamp that was sympathetic and boy, did she deliver.
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Re: Gray Short Story Discussion
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2011, 09:52:40 am »
Looks like the next one will be as interesting as well.