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The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« on: November 13, 2007, 02:53:47 pm »
I just finished rereading Blood Bound and something leapt out of me which links with last weeks chat with Patty. I asked her if there was any consequences when Stefan shared blood with Mercy and she said something of a catalyst happening. In BB the humans who live in a menagarie have longevity even though they may not turn or die  if they are treated right.
What if something similar happens to Mercy? I don't mean that small exchange will make her immortal but perhaps her magical heritage makes it more potent? Stefan when he came to visit, he sort of expected something  would have happened  but then Mercy is half Walker so the full affects wont appear till later. I do believe that this kinds of ties in with the history of the Walkers and the Vampires. Perhaps  the vampires viewed the walkers like a super dupa hemoglobin Red Bull source  :D but the Walkers fought back with their abilities. The vampires are also attracted to the weres for similar reasons.
I think what Stefan did not only will have repercussions for Mercy but he would probably be in the doghouse with Marsiella as well.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 03:15:44 pm »
yeah that struck me as odd to when he expected something and was a little surprised nothing happened, he wasn't too sure either that nothing was going to happen
that last point could very easily be true and i wonder what patty thinks about it


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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2007, 10:07:23 am »
Great thought, Has. It makes sense.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2007, 12:50:13 pm »
yeah, thats a really good idea, post it in the ask patty section and see what she says about it


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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 11:55:23 pm »
When was he expecting something to happen and was disappointed?  Sorry its like 3am and Im a little slow...

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2007, 07:46:53 am »
 Mercy asked Stefan if there was any about any consequences she might have after the blood exchange when he came to visit her later- this was after he told her about the fact that Andre and his so called punishment. Mercy suspected that he was visiting her for another reason - all of this is in the beginning of chapter 14
 I have a feeling it was to check if there was any permanent signs of effects of the blood exchange and also because he cares for her deeply  ;)
But  he was relieved/relaxed that there was nothing out of the ordinary  and any affect was temporary. But  there was a definite feel to me that he was expecting something because of the way he sorts of dismisses it and he was too casual and Mercy caught on to that.
But what repercussion will be is a mystery- my theory is that with some of the humans in the menagerie who had any psychic abilities boosted after their blood bonds. So a similar thing may happen with Mercy i.e the ghosts and perhaps some form of ability with other dead people like vampires? Which is why the walkers were hunted because of the threat and danger they can pose to them.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2007, 09:01:39 am »
yeah i think that could be - making her powers stonger with the exchange - but if ghosts are scared of vampires, wouldn't the ghosts stay away from mercy the more echanges with vampires she has?


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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2007, 04:37:41 pm »
I dont think so, because Mercy only deals with Sefan mainly.  And I dont think he would have to many ghost enemies.  And even if she does exchange with them, they've gotta know that she still has the power to take out some of the vamps, see the ghosts, be living 24/7, and help them with what they need.

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2007, 08:22:44 pm »
that is true, i just figured with the vampire blood in her the ghosts might not like her


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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2007, 06:28:49 am »
I just had another thought as well- Mercy can interact with ghosts especially if they are strong- well aren't vampires dead people too? What if she could affect them some other way via her walker powers?
Because although the ghosts could threaten the vampires in some ways the vampires could use their menagerie as a defense against any threats.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2007, 08:38:01 am »
Oh nice one, Has!
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2007, 11:18:08 am »
thats a really good point, it could also be part of the reason the vampires don't like walkers


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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2007, 01:48:13 pm »
I remember Stefan saying that this gives him some power over Mercy... I am quite interested in finding out what these are...

It could be like a calling thing, maybe Stefan will be able to sense how she is feeling a bit more easily, there are bunches of options there... It should be fun finding out.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2007, 02:06:37 pm »

It could be like a calling thing, maybe Stefan will be able to sense how she is feeling a bit more easily, there are bunches of options there... It should be fun finding out.

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2007, 02:11:06 pm »
There is a lot of mystery in Stephan's character.  It makes me wonder just how much he really knows (about everything in general)?  Mercy has good reason to be afraid of him, because she's just realizing how deep the vampire world is.  What kind of agenda does Stephan have?  He is one of - if not the only - vampire not bound to his maker.  Why?  And what kind of advantage does this give him?  I know that he would never intentionally harm Mercy, but he is so much more dangerous than he let's everyone know. What, exactly, does he want from all of this??  8)

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2007, 02:15:17 pm »
Yep... That's where I got the emotion thing from....  ;D
(I really like the Charlaine Harris books.... but then I'm biased because the Author lives in Arkansas.  ;D)

But you see.... There are so many different ways that little bit could play out, and I am really looking forward to see Mercy's reaction when something happens...  ;D

Countess of Chaos: I think that a bigger part of Stefan's agenda than he wants anyone to know is probably a protector type role for the seethe, and especially Marsilia. He is after all her "little soldier boy." What's gonna happen if Mercy is ever percieved to be or actually becomes a major threat to the vamps?
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2007, 02:23:13 pm »
ooooo, Spryte, you have villianous ideas!!  That is really interesting.  It's kind of connected to Mercy killing Andre, too.  What will Stephan do when Marsilia finds out?  Because she has to find out at some point, right?  If I remember right, Marsilia was pretty fond of Andre so won't she automatically want to kill Mercy?  And Stephan obviously likes Mercy... A LOT...
That leads me to another question.  The whole vampire seethe is subjected to Marsilia's whims, will, whatever.  What does Marsilia want?  Obviously power, but she can't get that with the werewolves and fae around.  We know she can't be content to stay in her mansion when she had all that power in Europe...  I think we could see some pretty interesting fireworks down the road between Mercy and the vampires... 8)
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2007, 02:31:06 pm »
Why thank you Countess... I spend many hours honing my villianous thinking to peak performance.  ;D

I think that any action Marsillia takes has getting back to Italy in mind.

And you are right... right now Stefan (and Wulfe for that matter) is protecting Mercy from Marsillia, in that they aren't going to tell her who killed Andre, but she will find out sooner or later. And we got a little peek of what the good Mistress can do in Moon Called. If she gets pissed at Stefan... He may have no choice but to at least attempt to take Mercy's life at one point or another.

It makes you feel bad for Stefan. He obviously is very attached to Mercy, but he has a tremendous amount of loyalty, and obligation to his Seethe.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2007, 02:38:54 pm »
And we got a little peek of what the good Mistress can do in Moon Called. If she gets pissed at Stefan... He may have no choice but to at least attempt to take Mercy's life at one point or another.

It makes you feel bad for Stefan. He obviously is very attached to Mercy, but he has a tremendous amount of loyalty, and obligation to his Seethe.

I really don't think Stefan will take that road and hurt Mercy, even if ordered or forced to make a choice.  The question then remains, what would he do instead?  He obviously values Mercy very highly, even loves her, but what would he do to protect her from Marsillia?  Killing is obviously not a problem for him, and we only have...was it Andrea that said Stefan was loyal even though he wasn't bound?  Anyway, I haven't seen (or don't remember) any examples of Stefan's loyalty.  He didn't have any problems with Mercy doing things that Marsillia didn't want and even back up Mercy's frustration at the results of Andrea "trial."  I guess there will just come a time when Stefan has to make a choice.  Will he take his own life or the lives of others to protect the one he loves or will he actually kill her?
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2007, 02:59:30 pm »
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really don't think Stefan will take that road and hurt Mercy, even if ordered or forced to make a choice.  The question then remains, what would he do instead?  He obviously values Mercy very highly, even loves her, but what would he do to protect her from Marsillia?

I agree I don't think he would harm Mercy at all - I think he would choose to protect Mercy despite his loyalty  to Marsillia the end of Blood Bound proves that. But I think Wulf would use this to perhaps seize power and will manipulate Stefan and Mercy for his own power play. Also other vampires are starting to hit out on their own and maybe using this to  gain power over the seethe. And its looking more and more apparent that Marsillia is losing her grip and although she may want to kill Mercy when she finds out about the truth of Andre's death, perhaps she wont be in the position to do so. Thats not counting a war with the werewolves because by the time she realises Mercy would have chosen a mate with either Sam or Adam and they will not let Mercy's death go unavenged whether if it looked accidental or not.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2007, 03:43:38 pm »
aaahhh...otherworldly politics!  ::)  (the only kind I like!  ;D)

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2007, 02:37:06 pm »
Ya, I definately agree.  I think Stefan would do pretty much anything to keep Mercy safe, and not being bound HAS to give him an advantage in that area.

And the wolves would definately get involved if Mercy got hurt

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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2007, 04:59:19 pm »
aaahhh...otherworldly politics!  ::)  (the only kind I like!  ;D)

then you must LOVE the Anita Blake and the Merry Gentry series by Laurell K Hamilton.  ::)
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2007, 07:22:55 pm »
Now I'm all worried about this blood exchange. I naively believed that there would be no side affects but with Patty hinting at the chat that there is something going on...oh man...  :P

This is a great topic, I may get a bit queasy when I think of the consequences but I'm enjoying reading everyone's ideas and theories. :D
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2007, 06:46:28 am »
Maybe it'll give them some mind to mind link or something.  Or something that'll let them know if the other one is in trouble.  Or it could help give Stefan a cover up for not being about to hurt Mercy.  I dont know how to get the last one down right though...sorry :(

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2007, 06:52:20 pm »
Now I'm all worried about this blood exchange. I naively believed that there would be no side affects but with Patty hinting at the chat that there is something going on...oh man...  :P


Maybe it'll give them some mind to mind link or something.  Or something that'll let them know if the other one is in trouble.  Or it could help give Stefan a cover up for not being about to hurt Mercy.  I dont know how to get the last one down right though...sorry :(

Patty also hinted in chat that Bran was not too upset about the blood exchange, so I doubt that it is very dangerous to Mercy.   Iris101 I do like the idea that Stefan can use the blood exchange as a way to explain his not harming Mercy.  That could even be an advantage for her.   

I wonder if it could make her more aware of vampire magic (not giving vampire magic more power over her, just making her more aware of its presence). 

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2007, 07:17:29 pm »
Like refining the abilities she already has?
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2007, 07:33:09 pm »
Yes, or like making her more sensitive to it (like overexposure make werewolves more sensitive to silver).  I'm putting that badly, but can you see where I'm headed?

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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2007, 07:42:10 pm »
Like Menolly in the Pern books, more sensitive because of scarring.
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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2007, 03:14:41 pm »
wow this topic got really involved, since bran wasn't too upset i'm pretty sure the effects won't be bad, but he could also be basing that on the way stefan acts around mercy also.  i think that at the end of blood bound when bran saw how upset stefan got when mercy was hurt he realized that stefan isn't the usual vampire and really does care about her.  so he may be putting in some of his own observations and opinions that he won't use anything against mercy if anything does happen because of the exchange


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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2007, 05:22:13 pm »
Like Menolly in the Pern books, more sensitive because of scarring.

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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2007, 04:10:14 pm »
i was wondering if he was telling mercy the whole truth when he seemed a little relieved that nothing had happened, i wondered if something would happen later

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Re: The blood exchange in Blood Bound
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2007, 04:11:42 pm »
yeah me too mercy_freak, i thought that there could be something too but bran doesn't seem too worried about it, but i may be reading it wrong


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