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Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« on: February 04, 2009, 11:42:50 pm »
Released July 9, 2009. This is a short story set in Mercy's World. Unfortunately, the quote from Patty is gone now because of the crash and I can't remember where on the amazon site it was located. Has, you posted in that thread didn't you? Hopefully you'll be able to find the quote.

Until we do this is what I remember. It's called "Seeing Eye", is set in Seattle and has a werewolf in it. :D Here's the cover.

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 04:42:23 am »
Found it - it was in the discussion page in one of the threads!

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<grin> The short story in Strange Brew is set in the same world as Mercy and the Alpha and Omega series. The anthology is all about witches and so is "Seeing Eye". It's set in Seattle -- and it has a werewolf in it.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 06:56:25 am »
A bit more information from an interview that Patty did:

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(the Strange Brew story is) about a witch and one of the wolves from the Emerald City pack, so that’s a little easter egg.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 09:38:02 am »
Found a bit of info on the short story:


From Publishers Weekly Anthologist Elrod (My Big Fat Supernatural Wedding) taps into the urban fantasy craze with a mixed bag of wizardry, mystery and glamour. The best include Patricia Briggs's wistful Seeing Eye, wherein blind witch Wendy Moira Keller helps werewolf Tom Franklin search for his missing brother, and Jim Butcher's funny Last Call, which finds wizard Harry Dresden hot on the tail of Meditrina Bassarid, a wicked wine-loving maenad who wreaks havoc in a Chicago bar. In Rachel Caine's romantic Death Warmed Over, Holly Anne Caldwell, a resurrection witch, falls in love with Andrew Toland, a corpse from 1875, while Elrod's Hecate's Golden Eye tells of a 1937 hunt for a curious family gem. In Charlaine Harris’ “Bacon,” a beautiful vampire joins forces with a witch from an ancient line to find out who killed her beloved husband. Though not particularly groundbreaking, these tales will easily keep paranormal mystery fans entertained.


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Also a bit of info from the Chapters.ca synopsis:

In ''Seeing Eye'' by Patricia Briggs, a blind witch helps sexy werewolf Tom Franklin find his missing brother-and helps him in more ways than either of them ever suspected.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 08:15:31 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 09:11:22 am »
  ;D ;D ;D Just received my copy this morning. Can't wait to read it tonight when I get home from work.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2009, 11:40:59 am »
Just finished it, and it was fantastic! Patty has come up with
a great new pairing and I desperately want to read more of their adventures.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009, 01:49:00 pm »
Just read this short yesterday and I agree that it's a terrific new pairing. Does anyone know if Patty is planning to feature them in a series? I looked all over her site but couldn't find much mention besides the books page that lists the book the story appears in.''

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 06:59:51 pm »
I do wonder if they will appear in Hunting Ground
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2009, 09:39:47 pm »
I would love to see them in Hunting Ground. :D
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2009, 10:37:53 am »
Charles, meet Tom, Tom, Charles.

I think they will meet.

what is the timing of this story. is it before moon called?

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2009, 02:09:02 pm »
Book Smugglers in their review mentioned that Tom was in the A&O series. I've missed him though and not sure if that was typo because I haven't run across him yet. So keep an eye out for him. ;) Not sure where it falls in the timeline.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2009, 02:20:40 pm »
If he's the second in the Emerald City pack, maybe we'll see him in Hunting Ground?
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 04:59:15 pm »
Witch  stops bads guys
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2009, 06:04:56 pm »
ooh... a good witch, maybe she can teach Charles some stuff, or at least give him some pointers.

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2009, 08:20:52 am »
Book Smugglers in their review mentioned that Tom was in the A&O series. I've missed him though and not sure if that was typo because I haven't run across him yet. So keep an eye out for him. ;) Not sure where it falls in the timeline.

I think he was mentioned in the first Charles & Anna book...an example of different types of gifts that mates have....something about a blind mate of a werewolf can see when he's in the same room.  That's what I remember, anyway. 

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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2009, 08:29:04 am »
Hi,

this is my first post and I hope you wont eat me.

And just as I was writing this I see Fairyfreak's post in which this idea is also mentioned, but as I already looked it up I post this too.

At first I thought the story would give something away regarding Silver Borne and I was a little dissapointed that it didn't.
However with all of Mrs. Briggs stories one can't really be dissapointed, for I loved those characters immediately and as always it was over too soon.

But this pairing, a blind witch and a werwolf are not mated yet but if you consider the end of the story it seems very likely that they will in the future.

So the blind women can see when she touches the wolf. And that reminded me of something in Cry Wolf.

When Charles explained mating to Anna, he gave an example for a mating bond.

So I just had to read the book again and find the part.

'One of the wolves in Oklahoma is mated to a blind woman. She can see now, as long as she's in the same room with him.' Cry Wolf p. 150

So is it the same couple? The problem as you can see is the fact that Seeing Eye playes in Seattle and the couple mentioned in Cry Wolf is in Oklahoma.

On the other hand two mentioned pairings that have gained nearly the same ability through the mate bond?

Hm, what do you think?

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2009, 08:38:43 am »
I do have to re-read Cry Wolf, but it could be that the Seattle wolf after the mating went to another pack?
after all changing packs isn't something that doesn't happen.... I guess it doesn't happen usually but it does happen.... :D


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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2009, 08:56:31 am »
I thought so too, but Hunting Ground is playing in Seattle if I'm not mistaken. So why introduce new characters that will have no part in the upcoming book?
I can't believe Patty would be so cruel  ;)

In Seeing Eye Tom is second in the Emerald City Pack. Maybe in Oklahoma he could now be alpha of his own pack.

And so in Hunting Ground he could be one of the wolfes to attend the meeting because he was from Seattle and knows the local pack.

Am I even making sense anymore  :D

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2009, 03:41:48 pm »
I'm enjoying your speculation. :) Welcome to the boards!
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2009, 04:36:42 pm »
Just got the book and read the story today!  Happy me...  ;D ;D ;D

I thought about the mention in Cry Wolf, too, but in any case, I do hope we get to see more of this couple.  I don't think Patty ever writes a character who doesn't have too interesting a story to fit in a single short story! 

It was interesting to me that this is the first story in this universe where the characters aren't closely tied to the Marrock in some way -- yes, as second in his pack, Tom has likely met the Marrock, and Moira is clearly aware of him, but neither of them are his family.  I'll bet the Marrock will be keenly interested, though if Tom and Moira do end up mated -- a very dominant wolf and a witch...

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2009, 04:59:05 pm »
I really enjoyed it.

But when he threatened her with revealing witches weren't just fakes, it sounded like the wolves were already out but the novel timeline places it well before MC.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2009, 12:10:02 am »
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2009, 07:10:00 pm »
I hope they're in Hunting Ground as side characters.  I don't think that it's the same couple mentioned in A&O.  I can't imagine why the cop and the witch would want to move to the Dustbowl. 

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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2009, 05:00:27 pm »
It's in the mail!!! So hopefully I get it soon bOuNcY
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2009, 07:38:50 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2009, 03:53:54 pm »
I dunno cavaliergirl, I think it is the same pair that Charles mentioned earlier.  The offical timeline puts "Seeing Eye" really early on:  http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=646.0

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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2009, 04:21:39 pm »
I hope they're in Hunting Ground as side characters.  I don't think that it's the same couple mentioned in A&O.  I can't imagine why the cop and the witch would want to move to the Dustbowl. 

I dunno cavaliergirl, I think it is the same pair that Charles mentioned earlier.  The offical timeline puts "Seeing Eye" really early on:  http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=646.0

I asked and was given this answer, "Seeing Eye takes place about a year before the events of Moon Called. We'll see Tom and Moira in Hunting Ground and they're an established couple by then." It can be found here, http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3060.0
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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2009, 11:16:36 pm »
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2009, 01:51:35 pm »
I hope they're in Hunting Ground as side characters.  I don't think that it's the same couple mentioned in A&O.  I can't imagine why the cop and the witch would want to move to the Dustbowl. 

I dunno cavaliergirl, I think it is the same pair that Charles mentioned earlier.  The offical timeline puts "Seeing Eye" really early on:  http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=646.0

I asked and was given this answer, "Seeing Eye takes place about a year before the events of Moon Called. We'll see Tom and Moira in Hunting Ground and they're an established couple by then." It can be found here, http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3060.0

Doesn't Charles tell Anna that the werewolf with the blind mate live in Oklahoma?  And it's been a month or two since I've read Strange Brew, but wasn't that set up in the northwest, Washington state? 

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2009, 02:19:36 pm »
i really liked this story.tom and moira  are interesting and likeable.


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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2009, 06:41:09 pm »
I hope they're in Hunting Ground as side characters.  I don't think that it's the same couple mentioned in A&O.  I can't imagine why the cop and the witch would want to move to the Dustbowl. 

I dunno cavaliergirl, I think it is the same pair that Charles mentioned earlier.  The offical timeline puts "Seeing Eye" really early on:  http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=646.0

I asked and was given this answer, "Seeing Eye takes place about a year before the events of Moon Called. We'll see Tom and Moira in Hunting Ground and they're an established couple by then." It can be found here, http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3060.0

Doesn't Charles tell Anna that the werewolf with the blind mate live in Oklahoma?  And it's been a month or two since I've read Strange Brew, but wasn't that set up in the northwest, Washington state? 

I don't have my copy handy but I'm not worried. I trust Patty's info, and she was the source for the info above, so I think we can expect she knows what she's talking about. Once we read "Hunting Groudn", we may have more info. :) Or maybe not since they are peripheral characters, it soudns like.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2009, 07:02:55 pm »

Doesn't Charles tell Anna that the werewolf with the blind mate live in Oklahoma?  And it's been a month or two since I've read Strange Brew, but wasn't that set up in the northwest, Washington state? 

He did say that and I just read it that there is a werewolf with a blind mate in Oklahoma and that doesn't rule out the fact that there's another werewolf with a blind mate in Seattle.
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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2009, 07:21:17 pm »
Yes; the OK couple have the 'see if he's in the same room'; Tom & Moira seem - so far as we've yet seen - to have to be touching, and there's the 'he's my familiar' element, too.
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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2009, 12:40:25 pm »
I read it & I loved it. It's a great story; Patty delivers the goods as usual. I am really loving anthologies lately and have bought several. Am looking for "My Big Fat Supernatural Wedding" right now. Short stories are almost a lost art, since a lot of the magazines that used to publish shorts are out of business.

And ...  I read "Hunting Ground," and Charmed is right, they are in that book and they are not just background, but supporting characters with a major scene, and they are AWESOME!
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2009, 11:33:45 am »
I had a copy of Strange Brew on hold at the library and it came up the same day I got Hunting Ground. I read Hunting Ground first but it was nice to be able to read Tom and Moira's story right away. I liked it.

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2009, 07:53:18 pm »
I loved it too I only wish it had been longer.  But then, it wouldn't be a short story. /sigh :)

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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2009, 10:11:10 pm »
I loved this short story.  Oh, and quite frankly... this is the best anthology that I've read.  Usually, I really like 2-3 stories, feel ambivalent about a few more, and then hate a few.   This time around, I liked all of them.  High marks for all of the stories. 

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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2009, 08:39:35 pm »
hard to find fault with such a esteemed group. i had not read your works before so i was very pleased to read seeing eye. i ask if you plan to bring this team together again. I enjoyed the witch and werewolf (0);)

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Re: Strange Brew | Seeing Eye Discussion
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2009, 08:44:49 pm »
This thread tells you a bit more about Tom & Moira:
http://hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3060.0
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« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2010, 05:31:55 pm »
Just read "Seeing Eye" and thoroughly enjoyed the story. I was wondering if you might at sometime in the future consider continuing with the story line? I would love to read more about Tom and Moria.

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« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2010, 05:36:09 pm »
Hi MidnightsAngel, Patty answered this question recently in an interview.
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Marianna G.: I loved your short story in the anthology “Strange Brew,” do you have any plans of writing more about Moira and Tom in the future?

PB: They make an appearance in Hunting Ground, and I may pull them in for bit parts in future books, but I have no plans to write a whole book (or series of books) based on them.


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« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2010, 05:48:59 pm »
Thank you ...   :)

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« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2010, 08:47:24 pm »
The Wendy Witch character in Strange Brew is very interesting.  I hope you revisit her and her Werewolf sometime in the future.

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« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2010, 09:04:36 pm »
Both Moira (Wendy), the witch, and Tom, the werewolf, in Strange Brew play pretty main characters in the second Alpha & Omega novel called Hunting Ground. I loved them! :D
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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2011, 07:12:14 am »
Anyone know if we'll see Tom and Moira again beyond this short and their supporting roles in Hunting Ground?
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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2011, 08:35:30 am »
No firm information yet.
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