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Title: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Patti L. on April 01, 2020, 11:13:03 pm
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Patricia Briggs News
‏ @Mercys_Garage
49 minutes ago

ICYMI: The Christy cover was an April Fool's joke from Patty and Ann! It's off the main page now and the website is back to normal. :) Patty isn't writing a Christy book but she is hard at work on Alpha&Omega6: Wild Sign
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Janilee on April 02, 2020, 02:35:17 am
 LOL Like we need reassurance.
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Post by: pondhawk on April 02, 2020, 04:55:23 am
Hugh. Just saying.  :D
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Post by: Zealith on April 02, 2020, 06:07:55 pm
Wild Sign, huh? I like the name. Think Anna and Charles might be up for another adventure in the woods?
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Post by: Janilee on April 02, 2020, 07:18:38 pm
 LOL Always!
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Post by: BillG on April 03, 2020, 12:38:39 am
 ;D Charles certainly prefers the woods to cities.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Patti L. on May 26, 2020, 05:25:52 pm
Patricia Briggs News
‏ @Mercys_Garage
9 hours ago

Alpha&Omega 6: Wild Sign will be out in March 2021. We have the cover reveal with art by the incredibly talented @dossantos_art Dan Dos Santos.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY9cL1KUMAA2aBj.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Zealith on May 26, 2020, 05:42:38 pm
Those look like runes to me.
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Post by: BillG on May 27, 2020, 01:00:15 am
OH, NOES!!!! She's been runed? The major symbols definitely do.
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Post by: pondhawk on May 27, 2020, 04:32:21 am
That might be my favorite A&O cover ever. Just beautiful. Charles looks more like a real wolf in this one, to me. And that's closer to how I picture Anna.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Patti L. on May 27, 2020, 04:35:54 am
I picture her hair as curlier and less red, but she also looks a lot more sophisticated in this one.  Maybe it's that coat. And I'm not sure, but are her eyes wolf blue instead of the usual 'root beer' color?
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Post by: pondhawk on May 27, 2020, 04:36:55 am
I did wonder about the eyes.
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Post by: Zealith on May 27, 2020, 05:05:01 pm
Definitely wolf blue. Also, looks like it takes place in autumn, and is that a birch tree?
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Post by: Janilee on May 28, 2020, 12:58:51 am
Could be.
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Post by: BillG on May 28, 2020, 01:01:18 am
It certainly looks like a birch.
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Post by: Patti L. on July 12, 2020, 03:59:07 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcuwOMUX0AEDTNP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
  From Stace   @Stay_C_Jay  on twitter.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: BillG on July 13, 2020, 02:13:01 am
GASP!!!!! The tension!!!!! The suspense!!!!! What is it, and what has awakened it?
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Post by: Janilee on July 13, 2020, 08:52:01 am
 :D COOL!
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Post by: pondhawk on July 13, 2020, 09:23:33 am
 :o
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Post by: Zealith on July 13, 2020, 08:25:10 pm
Maybe that nasty fire not too long ago? Or even just people expanding into new areas.
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Post by: Janilee on December 14, 2020, 11:12:49 am
There was a snippet of Wild Sign put up on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/5004773270/user/100000530785397

Don't know if it will show up on other platforms.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Patti L. on December 14, 2020, 06:23:39 pm
Page not found. Link may be broken or it may have been taken down, it says.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Zealith on December 14, 2020, 08:23:14 pm
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3315733551868924&id=273710646071245 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3315733551868924&id=273710646071245)

Does this link work for you?

Who was Ford again? I have forgotten.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: BillG on December 15, 2020, 01:16:48 am
I took Ford to be a new character. Alas, I used to have a great memory. Eh, I think I did.
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Post by: Melanie on December 15, 2020, 04:57:32 am
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08BKSQF78/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Amazon's product description has changed a little:
Here is the new one:

In the wilds of the Northern California mountains, all the inhabitants of a small town have gone missing.
It's as if the people picked up and left their possessions behind.
With a mystery on their hands and no jurisdiction on private property,
the FBI dumps the whole problem in the lap of the land owner, Aspen Creek, Inc.--aka the business organization of the Marrok's pack.

Somehow, the pack of the Wolf Who Rules is connected to a group of vanished people.
Werewolves Charles Cornick and Anna Latham are tasked with investigating,
and soon find that a deserted town is the least of the challenges they face.

Death sings in the forest, and when it calls, Charles and Anna must answer.
Something has awakened in the heart of the California mountains,
something old and dangerous--and it has met werewolves before.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Melanie on December 15, 2020, 05:17:07 am
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3315733551868924&id=273710646071245 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3315733551868924&id=273710646071245)

Does this link work for you?

Who was Ford again? I have forgotten.

Here is the text:

Happy Holidays from Patty to all of you! To celebrate, we have the first little snippet from Wild Sign.  I hope you enjoy it as much as I did; my grandkids have more maturity than I do, I am afraid - I still laugh at potty humor!
--Ann the trusty assistant
The goldfish rune was a few seasons old.  The one just above it, so new that there was sap beading up in some spots and the wood revealed by the broken bark was raw, was the rune that Ford had given them.  Ford had thought it had something to do with music, and looking at it, she could sort of see why.  It certainly looked more like a musical instrument than the goldfish looked like “property”.
Charles, realizing that Anna had stopped, came back to stand shoulder to shoulder with her.
A claiming, Brother Wolf said.  And Anna knew that he knew something of runes too.  Or maybe, if there was magic in these runes, he read the intent.
Tag huffed, lifted a leg and marked the tree in approved werewolf fashion.  Then he raked the ground in front of the tree and gave Anna a laughing grin full of teeth.  Anna could feel Brother Wolf’s amusement–but she could also feel his excitement.  They were closer to their prey.


Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Melanie on December 15, 2020, 05:19:36 am
Who was Ford again? I have forgotten.

I took Ford to be a new character. Alas, I used to have a great memory. Eh, I think I did.

The name of one of Stefan's sheep is Ford, but there is also another Ford in Storm Cursed:

...Ford is the name of Rankin’s man. Right now it looks like he’s the one who arranged for the bombing...

I assume this Ford in Wild Sign is a third. Just like all the Kara's, who appear in the books.  LOL
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Melanie on December 17, 2020, 05:15:20 am
In the wilds of the Northern California mountains, all the inhabitants of a small town have gone missing.

From there comes the trapped Forest Lord from "Silver Borne". Maybe he's this new Ford and helps with information.

Silver Borne, chap.15:
Zee had no trouble freeing the forest lord from his chains.
He's a charming fellow very gracious as well as powerful.
Daphne kidnapped him from his own place in northern California.
His wife and family were very glad to hear that he'll be coming home soon.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Patti L. on December 17, 2020, 05:25:11 am
Interesting idea.  Hmm....
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Post by: pondhawk on December 17, 2020, 05:40:51 am
Well, if you take everything between F[orest L] and ord...
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Post by: Melanie on December 17, 2020, 10:44:22 am
Well, if you take everything between F[orest L] and ord...

I didn't see it that way, but now ... WOW!   LOL
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Zealith on February 18, 2021, 05:47:57 pm
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/589582/wild-sign-by-patricia-briggs/?fbclid=IwAR3tGDN_7H8DRQG9wZLA0RwWVnQoEU2KNBFtqMehbLldidWdjlIRSXCZHXE  (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/589582/wild-sign-by-patricia-briggs/?fbclid=IwAR3tGDN_7H8DRQG9wZLA0RwWVnQoEU2KNBFtqMehbLldidWdjlIRSXCZHXE)

Click to read chapter 1!
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Post by: Patti L. on February 18, 2021, 06:06:26 pm
bOuNcY
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Post by: Janilee on February 18, 2021, 08:05:14 pm
And the fun begins! :)
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Post by: Zealith on February 18, 2021, 08:17:55 pm
I was really happy to see the agents again.
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Post by: Janilee on February 18, 2021, 11:04:41 pm
 :D They had to show up sometime.
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Post by: Patti L. on February 19, 2021, 05:08:50 am
Pfft. This is the third time.
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Post by: Zealith on February 19, 2021, 05:05:25 pm
Yes, and I like them! Though I believe this is the man's second time. Too lazy to go double check I'm getting his name right.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Patti L. on March 06, 2021, 05:27:13 pm
I've just finished it, and wow, wow, wow.

I'm also cracking up from people starting to call Bran "Wolf Who Rules", like the character in Wen Spencer's "Tinker" series.

There's a small "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" reference at one point too.
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Post by: pondhawk on March 07, 2021, 05:55:23 am
 :D
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Post by: YuleRule on March 15, 2021, 05:08:09 pm
Okay, i just finished the book! Well, that certainly makes things interesting, doesn't it?

And Jonsey is from Burn Bright? I really need to reread the books again.

Some very interesting setups that happen here! I can't wait to see how that will be reflected in the Mercy books! Synonym: Mail
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Post by: Patti L. on March 15, 2021, 05:12:18 pm
Yep, Heather's fae mate, brother/half brother of Beauclair.
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Post by: YuleRule on March 16, 2021, 05:21:04 pm
So I reread Burn Bright, Smoke Bitten, and Storm Cursed today.

Has anyone noticed that there keep being exceptions to werewolf transformation times? Even taking into account Alphas and pulling on pack magic, extra-fast transformations seem to be plot dependent rather than strictly defined. And there are more of them, and more often in the past couple of books.

Anyway, from Burn Bright:
"[Leah] was several decades older than Charles"

“I did not know Hester or Jonesy except through the stories of others. I never met either of them, though I knew they were here and approximately where they lived. I cannot recall what I have said about either of them or to whom, only that I would not speak of them in name or in any detail to anyone not in this pack."

Both of which are inconsistent with the info from Wild Sign
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: Patti L. on March 16, 2021, 06:21:53 pm
Not sure I agree on that. 

"[Leah] was several decades older than Charles"
but, She was at least 20-30 when she met Bran; Charles was... under puberty? 10 maybe?  That's only 'a couple' to me, rather than 'several' decades, but still.  Older.
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Post by: Zealith on March 16, 2021, 07:16:25 pm
I'm 95% sure Leah said she was probably 20 when he (sherwood) rescued her. But it's been over a century, people for get details and if Charles was 5, 15 years old in close to 20 years old (in a child's mind)
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Post by: YuleRule on March 17, 2021, 03:44:01 am
Huh. I thought Charles was 10 and Leah was 20. Leah's age was definitely stated, I'll need to double check Charles'
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Post by: IndieMama on March 18, 2021, 04:53:35 pm
So I reread Burn Bright, Smoke Bitten, and Storm Cursed today.

Has anyone noticed that there keep being exceptions to werewolf transformation times? Even taking into account Alphas and pulling on pack magic, extra-fast transformations seem to be plot dependent rather than strictly defined. And there are more of them, and more often in the past couple of books.

Anyway, from Burn Bright:
"[Leah] was several decades older than Charles"

“I did not know Hester or Jonesy except through the stories of others. I never met either of them, though I knew they were here and approximately where they lived. I cannot recall what I have said about either of them or to whom, only that I would not speak of them in name or in any detail to anyone not in this pack."

Both of which are inconsistent with the info from Wild Sign

The fast shifting, I don’t really see those as exceptions. The books consistently maintain that, typically, shift to wolf takes 10-15 minutes for any wolf other than Charles.  Whenever someone shifts faster, it’s always made clear that they’re pulling on some extra source of power. Pack magic, witch magic, it’s never left unclear, that I can I recall.  Plot dependent maybe, in the sense that the intensity of what they’re facing has been ratcheting up over the last few books, which demands the need for the wolves to shift faster.  The ones coming to mind, I know Adam has used power from the pack bonds to speed his shift several times, but there’s plenty of other times in the last few books where his shift is described as being as slow as normal.  Adam was force shifted in a blink by Elizaveta as the end of Storm Cursed and Sage used a talisman to rapid shift in Burn Bright. Both of those are clearly explained and consistent with what’s happened before. It didn’t feel overly convenient to me.

I could see the previously stated age difference between Leah and Charles being a genuine mistake. But it could also be due to Charles knowing fully nothing about Leah’s past up until Wild Sign.  All werewolves appear to be in their early to mid twenties.  If Charles met her at age 10, at that age all adults are ancient. 20 might as well be 40 to a kid under 12.  As he grew older, he might have heard snippets that led him to understand she wasn’t that much older than him, but it’s not as if he was ever told her exact birth year.  A couple of decades seemed right to him, so he settled on that assumption.

As for Charles saying he never met or spoke to Jonesy, I didn’t read anything in Wild Sign that contradicted that.
Title: Re: 2020: Next! Alpha & Omega
Post by: pondhawk on March 23, 2021, 05:12:02 am
I agree. While the A&O series is written in third person, it's still in character POV. The omniscient author is not the one explaining things. So a character may fully believe what they tell someone, and still be inaccurate, or even downright wrong.