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Title: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: alan on February 04, 2009, 11:25:30 am
I think that Stephan has a thing going for Mercy and that it might show more in Bone Crossed.  Not sure what everyone else thinks and I'd like to know but I have a feeling it will play into Adam and Mercy's relationship more than before.

EDIT: fixed spelling of character's name - charmed, books mod
Title: Re: Stephan and Mercy
Post by: Patti L. on February 04, 2009, 12:14:32 pm
I tend to agree, but again, Alan, this isn't a worksheet, this is a discussion piece, so I'm moving it.
Title: Re: Stephan and Mercy
Post by: Zealith on February 04, 2009, 04:38:23 pm
He pretty much says he does in BB.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Pendle on February 08, 2009, 06:29:47 am
I'm not sure, I think he does love her. But maybe it's more like how Samuel and Mercy are together.

And you have to wonder about Stefan and Marsilia - afterall she never killed him when she had no control over him.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: PurpleMoon on February 13, 2009, 11:53:46 am
ok, first I'd like to correct mu vote at the poll, I meant to say yes! lol but clicked no... he totally loves her, he loved marsilia once and he is loyal to that sentiment, he's a soldier, but she did much to disapoint him, she hurted him...but he loves mercy...and Marsilia knows it! I can`t take the last scene of bone cross out of my mind when Marsilia reasures Mercy that she WOULD LIKE to kill her, I belive that has nothing to do with the fact that she's a walker or because of Andre, no sir!
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Pendle on February 22, 2009, 06:51:58 am
I can`t take the last scene of bone cross out of my mind when Marsilia reasures Mercy that she WOULD LIKE to kill her, I belive that has nothing to do with the fact that she's a walker or because of Andre, no sir!

I'd agree with this point, jealousy?
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: ArtAngel on February 22, 2009, 07:23:38 am
I can`t take the last scene of bone cross out of my mind when Marsilia reasures Mercy that she WOULD LIKE to kill her, I belive that has nothing to do with the fact that she's a walker or because of Andre, no sir!

I'd agree with this point, jealousy?


I agree. Mercy brings out Stefan's humanity, which he probably has not felt for a very long time. He loves her for this. Yes I am convinced he loves Mercy but he won't ever approach her, not now that she has chosen Adam. Actually I'm not sure if he ever would have, because of who and what he is.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Has on February 22, 2009, 07:38:34 am
I agree- Stefan definitely knows its unrequited love on his end. That scene where Mercy takes his blood was a key scene. He has feelings for her but he wont press it further, Mercy knows it but I think they just want to keep it unspoken between them but they are both aware of it.

I think his feelings for Mercy might be more stronger than his for Marsillia- I agree with Art, she brings out the human side of him which he probably wants to stay balanced. In some ways Marsillia represents his past and when he first became a vampire and I dont think he likes the fact that he is losing his humanity to the inner monster. Mercy is able to bring that part out of him- like Sam and even in some respects Adam as well. She helps to balance them and I think they need to stay whole and not go succumb to inner beasts.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Ellyll on February 22, 2009, 08:42:55 am
I think all of that is true.  But Stefan was human during the Renaissance, and that seems to color a great deal of his thinking and feeling.  His relationship with Marsilia is classic 'courtly love' coupled with the fealty owed to a lord (or lady, in this case).  Honor is very important to him. 

I think in Mercy he sees a woman with a sense of honor equal to his own.  And Marsilia's honor has gotten very flexible over the centuries.  Stefan has probably had to accept a lot of compromises to his honor over that time, and Mercy's honor is still pure.  I think Stefan loves that about Mercy as much as anything.  And he'd have no trouble loving her from a distance; in his day, that was a noble thing. 

I think Marsilia sees this, too.  Not just Stefan's feelings for Mercy, but also how Mercy is more like what Marsilia should be and maybe once was.  So she's jealous of both things. 
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Pendle on February 22, 2009, 10:01:32 am
When Stefan remained loyal to Marsilia, even when asked to join sides with Estelle and Bernard, do you think that he knew she had some tricks up her sleeve? That this is why he chose to protect Marsilia/Seethe over protecting Mercy?
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Ellyll on February 22, 2009, 10:38:34 am
I don't think he knew.  I think that's just how he is.  His first loyalty is to Marsilia, and that hasn't changed.  If his first loyalty were to Mercy, he'd have gone after the seethe as soon as they made Mercy a target.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Has on February 22, 2009, 11:24:32 am
It would be interesting if he had to choose between Mercy and Marsillia though- Now that would be angst and torture for Stefan but I have a feeling if the crunch has to come he would choose Mercy.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: CarolKat on February 22, 2009, 11:25:46 am
Stefan has been protecting Mercy from the seethe since the beginning.  He kept them from knowing she was a walker and though it was never really clarified I would bet he was the intermediary so she could pay the seethe by repairing their cars and his van.  Stefan's loyalty has always been to Marsilia and the Seethe and even when he wasn't part of it he wouldn't betray them.
No doubt he loves Mercy but he also respects her choices both in love and actions ( killing Andre)
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: ArtAngel on February 22, 2009, 12:35:38 pm
I think in Mercy he sees a woman with a sense of honor equal to his own.  And Marsilia's honor has gotten very flexible over the centuries.  Stefan has probably had to accept a lot of compromises to his honor over that time, and Mercy's honor is still pure.  I think Stefan loves that about Mercy as much as anything.  And he'd have no trouble loving her from a distance; in his day, that was a noble thing. 

I really like this idea!
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: PurpleMoon on February 22, 2009, 02:08:31 pm
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I agree. Mercy brings out Stefan's humanity, which he probably has not felt for a very long time. He loves her for this. Yes I am convinced he loves Mercy but he won't ever approach her, not now that she has chosen Adam. Actually I'm not sure if he ever would have, because of who and what he is.

Well it's not like he had never approached her, let's not forget the kiss he gave her after she killed Andre, she was not Adam's mate yet, he would have stood a chance then, but he knew Mercy would not forgive him for the killings, even after he made sure to tell her that those were Wulfe's not his.

 In BC Stefan was really, really upset, the loss of his people, the almost being able to hurt Mercy thing...and even after that mercy, even being mad because of the deaths, she still worried about him, it was then, with her and Warren in adam's basement that he tried to convince, not only mercy, but himself too that he was a monster, a vampire, he repeated that a lot and I don't think it was only for the others, he wanted more that anything to admit to himself that he was a monster...

Marcilia's carelessness for her 'food' always took on him, because she was a vampire but he did not want to be one, and when he's with mercy she makes him feel like he's not one... He loves her, but I also think that he's a bit confused right now....
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Zealith on February 22, 2009, 02:10:51 pm
I can see him feeling confused.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Pendle on February 23, 2009, 10:44:27 am
It would be interesting if he had to choose between Mercy and Marsillia though- Now that would be angst and torture for Stefan but I have a feeling if the crunch has to come he would choose Mercy.

You know I'm not entirely convinced that he would pick Mercy. I think the vampires like the wolves need to be with their own kind/own people. And Mercy's not one of Stefan's people, nor does she want to be. She's his friend nothing more. So if push came to shove, I think he'd pick Marsilia.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Lorikeet on February 26, 2009, 03:14:47 am
Hi,
first I have to say: I'm new here. (Hi to everybody) I've read all the Mercy Books (bone crossed in english the other ones in german). I hope I will not make too much mistakes, for english is not my native speech.

And now I will start to discuss  ;)

No I don't think he would pick Marsilia any longer, because what she had done to him in a short time was now once too much. She abused him in a cruel way. The only friendly thing was, that she hadn't kill his sheep/people. Marsilia herself is no more the same Vampyre as she was. Thats what we heard often from Andre and others. So I think feelings for Marsilia began to change in Stefan. Perhaps he starts his own seed, because isn't there a vacant place now (Blackwood is dead!)?

Greetings
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: zallin11 on February 27, 2009, 08:27:35 am
Does anyone know if this will be more clarified in the fifth book?
Because, i am still confused over his feelings for Mercy...it seems like his love for her goes pretty deep and not in a friendship way...personally he is actually my favorite character in the series because he always stands by the ones he cares for and battles constantly his true nature. I just hope to read much more about him...

It would be terrible if he were put in a situation where he has to chose between Mercy and Marsilla, since the honor for them is not in the same realm of emotions
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Pendle on February 27, 2009, 10:38:29 am
Does anyone know if this will be more clarified in the fifth book?
Because, i am still confused over his feelings for Mercy...it seems like his love for her goes pretty deep and not in a friendship way...personally he is actually my favorite character in the series because he always stands by the ones he cares for and battles constantly his true nature. I just hope to read much more about him...

It would be terrible if he were put in a situation where he has to chose between Mercy and Marsilla, since the honor for them is not in the same realm of emotions

Me too! There's more to find out about Stefan - he's still a mystery. And he sticks to his guns.

I wouldn't like to se him choose between Mercy and Marsilia - everything he feels, everything he is will be a mass of confliction, but on his honor I still think he'd pick Marsilia - she was there first. But if Mercy was killed (by the vampires) he'd go off his rocker.

Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on November 10, 2011, 12:47:34 pm
I think Stephan does like Mercy.  :)
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: catchmeifyoucan on November 10, 2011, 01:32:23 pm
I don't think he would stick with Marsilla.  I think he would try to defuse the situation but ultimately, I think he would side with Mercy.  She helps him remember his humanity and I think that is extremely important to him.  Plus I think that since Marsilla destroyed most of his people and threw him under the bus, he will be less likely to take her side should there be some risk to someone he views as good (Mercy).
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on November 10, 2011, 02:57:56 pm
That is a good point and I hope it is right. It might be a disaster if he has to choose though.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Patti L. on July 16, 2013, 11:19:06 pm
Just doing some re-reading of "Bone Crossed", and it occurred to me, beyond Stefan's regard for Mercy as a person, one he's got some kind of crush on, that (after also re-reading from "Frost Burned" and "Blood Bound") while Marsila may crave werewolf blood, there seem to be some vampires (beyond The Monster's ability to share the traits of those he feeds upon) who crave walker blood.  Stefan... kept his link to her, much to her displeased discovery in "Frost Burned", and twice, once in BB & again in FB, Wulfe comments on wanting to taste her blood.

Opinions?
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Janilee on July 17, 2013, 01:49:39 am
I'm half agreeing with you Patti that it is some sort of attraction to walker blood. This would not have been discovered until the vampires came to the new world.

I do believe Stefan is attracted to Mercy beyond her supernatural blood. But the blood could also be a bonus.

I am also wondering about vampire flirting. :-\
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Nille on August 20, 2013, 11:26:10 pm
I believe Stefan likes Mercy because she is Mercy like all the other paranormal people. I can follow the idea that the vampires are attrected to Walker blood  :)
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: midnight on August 20, 2013, 11:48:28 pm
I agree. Also if I remember correctly (which given that i haven't had my morning coffee yet which could put things in doubt:))  in river marked, coyote said that he remembered Stefan when he was being introduced. Also stefan said he hadn't fought any walkers in a long time. Could it be that as Stefan fought with other walkers he had this attraction to their blood as you said.

Also another thought that has just come to me is Mercy is Coyote (almost) daughter. Does this mean her blood is stronger? (Stefan having already tasted it which formed a link.) The same can be said about Wulfe. In blood bound Mercy bled on his chair and then in frost burned he said "I've always wanted to taste your blood from the source".  This sound like to me that her blood is addictive. But then Wulfe does like to play his games.

Either way Stefan does appear to value their friendship. I think deep down he does like her as more than a friend but he knows its hopeless because of Adam and the wolves.
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Patti L. on August 21, 2013, 08:19:01 am
I think it is - and Stefan knows it is - hopeless because he's freakin' dead, and Mercy is alive.
Title: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: butterfly_sarah on June 10, 2015, 05:27:36 pm
Am I the only one who wants Mercy and Stefan to be together? :-' But I know that would never happen seems like her and Adam are pretty solid,, but here's hoping...
Title: Re: Stefan and Mercy
Post by: Kristenann on June 11, 2015, 12:55:42 pm
I wouldn't mind if Stefan and Mercy were an item for a time, especially after Night Broken. I actually feel bad for Stefan, but seeing the nature of "the vampire" I probably shouldn't.