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Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on July 31, 2007, 09:15:18 pm
Sooooo hard not to keep pestering you about the choice...  :-X
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Spryte on August 01, 2007, 09:45:27 am
no kidding, I feel like a kid pestering her mom to let her open her christmas presents early.
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenniwee on August 01, 2007, 10:44:17 pm
Yeah, I feel bad asking but I wish I could be prepared to be disappointed if Mercy doesn't choose who I think she should.  Besides, I'll totally be reading the end of the book first to find out who she chooses. 

We'll have to come up with something when the book comes out so we can debate her choice without spoiling it for those who haven't read it yet!
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Nifty on August 02, 2007, 05:44:20 am
Besides, I'll totally be reading the end of the book first to find out who she chooses. 

Ha!  That's so totally me!  I know I'll sneak a peek, too.

I've got all my fingers and toes crossed for Adam.  I like Sam, but there's a part of me that will be so disappointed, I think, if she chooses him over Adam.  (Although I'm sure Patty will handle the choice well and I'll probably be won over in the end.)  But still...

ADAM!   ADAM!   ADAM!

;D
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenniwee on August 02, 2007, 09:12:21 am
I'm with you!  Love Adam!!!

I really felt that in MC, Patty lay the groundwork for the Adam/Mercy thing, but then in BB, Sam is still in the running and stronger than ever and I was like, What?  Nooo!!
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Grey Drakkon on August 02, 2007, 01:01:29 pm
:: is horrified by the notion that someone would read the ending first ::  O_O  Heathens!
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Zealith on August 02, 2007, 01:17:08 pm
I'll have to agree with Grey Drakkon, Heathens! That would spoil it!
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Good Mazoku on August 02, 2007, 01:48:57 pm
But you have to admit, if they die before getting to the end of the book they already know what would have happened and their ghosts won't linger in this dimension 'cos they have unfinished business... ;) That said, I never jump to the end of a book: it consumes tons of selfcontrol, but somehow I manage... *mazoku sweating in the effort, since there's her new book right in front of her - argh!!!*
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Zealith on August 02, 2007, 01:50:24 pm
If Heaven doesn't have books, I don't want to go.
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Good Mazoku on August 02, 2007, 01:52:28 pm
Well then, we are of one mind! ;D If I don't get to read books when I'm dead, I swear I'll go haunting every bookstore I find... -_-
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Spryte on August 02, 2007, 07:08:06 pm
Spryte, the grey ghost of Barnes & Nobles..... midnight tours offered at $12 per person.... no flash photography allowed...

But you are right, it will require all of Spryte's willpower to not scan through the book, find who Mercy picks and then read... and Spryte's willpower is not very good when it comes to satisfying curiosity...
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Elle on August 03, 2007, 08:20:28 am
I think this is a pretty cool question. I like that Mercy's choice isn't dictated by the pack but that she has to make it because of them. Interesting.

Also...much of the willpower will be put into action to not flip to the back. I. Will. Not. Oh so very hard though....'cause I want to know!
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Spryte on August 03, 2007, 11:31:39 am
It does put Adam into an interesting situation.... not to mention that interesting in this case is almost one in the same as dangerous.
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: thehuntress on August 04, 2007, 01:26:18 am
.... not to mention that interesting in this case is almost one in the same as dangerous.

Actually,  that seems to sum up Mercy's life, doesn't it?
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Spryte on August 04, 2007, 02:37:35 pm
absolutely ;D! But hey! She'll never get bored, and we won't either.... and nobody said dangerous isn't fun!  *Spryte thinks back to her little bluff diving excursion up at Blanchard Springs Park*
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Jerseybean on August 05, 2007, 07:04:46 am
ok so Mercy chooses both Adam and Sam in the next book.  Wouldn't that make things even more unstable, choosing one then changing her mind so soon?  Won't everyone think she's just as likely to change her mind again?  :-\
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Spryte on August 05, 2007, 01:56:06 pm
pick both? just because she makes two choices doesn't mean she changes her mind.... It might be that the second decision is just related to the first.... Like she chooses (for the sake of an example) Adam, and then has to make another choice about directly connected with that. Just a thought.
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Good Mazoku on August 05, 2007, 02:00:36 pm
I think Jerseybean is referring to the fact that Patty said that Mercy chooses someone in the middle of the book and then changes her choice at the end of the novel...  :)
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Spryte on August 05, 2007, 02:01:52 pm
dang.... that has a lot of potential for mayhem... (Spryte gnaws lip and hopes she picks Adam in the end.)
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenniwee on August 05, 2007, 05:44:23 pm
I'll have to check the chat, but I thought all that Patty said was that Mercy makes one decision in the middle of the book and a second at the end.  That does not necessarily mean choosing both.  I thought it probably meant choosing not to be with someone, then choosing to be with someone else.  Does that make sense?
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on August 05, 2007, 06:25:47 pm
  I thought it probably meant choosing not to be with someone, then choosing to be with someone else.  Does that make sense?
yes, I interpretted it like that also.  I was thinking more like she chooses someone and then decides that it won't work by the end of the book.  That would leave her open for more options in the rest of the series.
Title: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Elle on August 05, 2007, 06:40:27 pm
Hmmm...now I'm all stressed. I was thinking...of course she'll choose Adam.  :-\ I'm gonna go...her first decision is to be with no one, to alleviate the pressure from Adam's pack...but at the end she decides to choose Adam...because, of course, she can't resist him.  :D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on August 06, 2007, 02:08:38 pm
I think she will most likely choose Adam in the next book ( although I prefer Sam), but I don't think she will be able to stay with him because of the pack business and his inability to stop dominating her.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Spryte on August 09, 2007, 04:18:07 pm
I am thinking she will choose to be with no one, and then something will happen..... or hey, maybe the other way around. Spryte isn't sure what she thinks about this anymore.  ;D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: deva on August 11, 2007, 02:07:06 pm
I'm gonna go...her first decision is to be with no one, to alleviate the pressure from Adam's pack...but at the end she decides to choose Adam...because, of course, she can't resist him.  :D

This is my thought as well...but of course it is because I want it to be Adam.  And I am hoping that the second choice isn't to be with neither.  I would like to see her explore a relationship for at least one whole book.  I don't think I like the idea of her choosing to be with someone halfway through the book, just to change her mind and be with no one by the end of the book.  That doesn't give us...I mean Mercy enough time to savor. ;)

By the way, I have to admit that I am one of those evil people who will be reading the end to see who her choice is then settling in and reading the whole book.  There is a very - VERY - slim chance that I will just read it from the beginning and not take a peak at the end.  But I doubt I will even make it out of the store without taking a peak.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Grey Drakkon on August 11, 2007, 04:07:25 pm
Gah you people!  :: shudders away from your taint ::  Seriously, there's something deep-level wrong with hearing that people do that...Its like,..................Hmm ok I can't think of anything that probably doesn't break some decency rule at this board.   ;D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on August 11, 2007, 04:58:00 pm
:o :o I can't understand why anyone would want to skip to the end! :o :o  Blasphemy!!!!  Don't you want to have a chance to agree with her and understand why she chooses?  What if you skip to the end and it's not who you think? Will you be irritated during the whole book because you know the ending and haven't given yourself a chance to enjoy her expeirence?  ???
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: DeDanann on August 12, 2007, 12:56:18 am
As far as reading the end of the book first...I do that, I'll admit.  There are three main reasons why.  The first is that I'm a writer myself and have enough time restrictions that I can't always just drop everything and sit down to read the books straight through.  I even skimmed Harry Potter.  Like, all seven books.   :-[

The second reason is that sometimes reading someone else's books has a weird effect on me--I sit down to read and get maybe a chapter or so into it, and then guilt hits me like a sledgehammer because I'm not working on my own book, so I have to put the other writer's book aside and rush to the computer to assuage my slacker complex.  (Or something like that, anyway!)  So if I want to ever know what happens in someone else's book, I have to skim and get my reader's fix before I throw myself at my keyboard.

And then the last and probably biggest reason is that...umm, I just succumb to my need for instant gratification.  I'm weak.  Weak!  Spoilers, spoilers, come to me.... ;D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on August 12, 2007, 09:14:21 am
I guess everyone has their own style :) and all t hat matters is your enjoment of the book.   I'm rabidly anti-spoiler, for me the enjoyment of reading the story as it unfolds is everything.  I won't read a book or watch a movie if I know what happens ( historical events are excempt ;) ).  It just ruins the expeirence for me.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Good Mazoku on August 12, 2007, 12:14:31 pm
There was a time (more than nine centuries ago...I was still a little mazoku...) in which I couldn't help myself but sneak a peak at the end of the book...like, always...then I read the end of a book in which one of the main characters (and one that I loved...  :'() died in the middle of the book...I was so sad during all the book I kept hoping I hadn't read the end.  :-\ And so, I stopped doing that. Nothing better to get burnt to stop a bad habit. Now, I have an invincible force of will and never read the end: to make-up for this, I read books in a matter of hours!!  ;D So, you see, I still get a chance to enjoy the book while waiting a minimum amount of time to know what will happen.  ;) Yes, I got to wear glasses for this, but they add up to my charm...at least, this is what I hope...you know, when light reflects on the lenses, I seem almost clever...  8)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Seaag94 on August 12, 2007, 03:18:27 pm
Here's a thought... what if she chooses Stefan :o because of the blood bond and then breaks that and goes to her first choice - Adam. 

All I know is I can't wait for this book.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on August 13, 2007, 11:19:45 am
Im going to die waiting for this book :(

I really hope she chooses Adam though.  He seems more like...mate material.  Sam just seems like he just wants her to have kids that will live, no matter what he says about it.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on August 13, 2007, 11:20:50 am
I dont think she'll choose Stefan though.  I dont remember where I saw it, but Im pretty sure it said that it was just between Sam and Adam.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenniwee on August 13, 2007, 11:56:42 am
I dont think she'll choose Stefan though. 

Yeah, Mercy is really creeped out when she realizes Stephan sees her that way.  She says so both at the church and after she kills Andre.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: bingomzan on August 13, 2007, 10:14:06 pm
Ever since reading BB, I've thought that Samuel may be about to lose it.  I know much of his loss of control came from the demon, but even more than that, it seems like he may be losing the will to live.

I took this from the Alpha and omega spoiler topic, but it does have a good point.

Samuel will probably lose or come close to losing it if mercy chooses adam. Of course he might understand, he did already lose her once, but i think it might be a very bad thing.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenniwee on August 15, 2007, 08:40:18 pm
Actually, I think he's pretty close to losing it regardless.

I think he sees Mercy as his way of forging emotional bonds that will last and he thinks that that will somehow ground him.  I just don't think that will work.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: deva on August 15, 2007, 09:36:28 pm
Maybe Mercy chooses Adam (go Adam!), Sam does come really close to losing it, moves back to Montana and is around the Omega enough that he is able to regain control once again.   ;D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Grey Drakkon on August 16, 2007, 05:23:41 am
I'm pretty sure that I read in the chats that no matter what, Sam's not going back to Montanna.  He's split off from the pack there now.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on August 16, 2007, 12:15:33 pm
I hope Sams "problem'' doesnt make Mercy choose him :(  I REALLY want her to choose Adam.


Patty said that Mercy's choice would change in the end of the book right?  So does that mean she changes men, changes the reason for picking them, or both?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Grey Drakkon on August 16, 2007, 01:35:01 pm
Nope, what she said was that Mercy makes a choice, and then she makes ANOTHER choice.  That doesn't mean that her second choice negates, or even has anything to do with the first one. 
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 09, 2007, 01:16:09 pm
everybody is hoping for adam but i am worried that if she chooses him it would make things around the pack very different and with him being alpha and all its dangerous.  on the other hand, if she chooses samuel then it would be just as bad with the pack since then samuel is her mate and adam can't claim her before the pack anymore without a huge fight.  i think she is too scared of stefan's feelings to choose him, and since patti said that the vampires aren't really in this book, that there really is no chance for stefan in the running for mercy's heart.  i am just afraid of what this will mean for samuel if mercy chooses adam.  they are both great guys and i can't wait to read this book.

and as for all of you people who read the end first: SHAME ON YOU !
that is so bad, it ruins the whole effect that the writer planned on making throughout the book.  plus, it negates all the suspense that builds up with the descision.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: deva on October 09, 2007, 04:01:50 pm

and as for all of you people who read the end first: SHAME ON YOU !
that is so bad, it ruins the whole effect that the writer planned on making throughout the book.  plus, it negates all the suspense that builds up with the descision.

But it helps keep my blood pressure low and my body from being all twitchy while I read the book-heh...it's hard to hold a book when you are all twitchy.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 09, 2007, 04:29:26 pm
Yep and if you are all twitchy then you wont be able to remember any of the book until you find out who she chooses.  And then you'll just have to read it again (not complaining about that ;) ).  So in the long run it'll pretty much be like reading it for the first time and looking at who she chooses anyways :D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on October 10, 2007, 01:37:41 pm
everybody is hoping for adam

not everyone!  the sam-supporters are out there we just aren't as glued to posting on the board...
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 10, 2007, 01:46:34 pm
LOL  For SOME reason I think that us Adam-Supporters are just a little bit more addicted to the forum ;)  At least I am....
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 10, 2007, 03:36:42 pm
reading would be hard if you get all twitchy i just think it kills the effect the book is supossed to have, but i understand ::).  yeah i think that adam-supporters are addicted to it for some odd reason, but i am just plain addicted to the books !   i read them before my school books :-[ even thought its like the 6-7th time i've read them lol

and i am not oppossed to mercy picking adam, but i think it would just kill samuel if she didn't choose him.  i think he really would not have much to live for after that.  ohh ohh i think i might have figured out what happens with mercy's 2 choices: she will choose samuel then move so that it doesn't have ill-effects on adam and the pack being so close.  (not moving out of the city but a little bit further away from the pack) - now thinking about it i'm not so sure but it still could happen :)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenniwee on October 11, 2007, 09:53:22 pm
I think there are just more Adam-o-philes here.  Just looking at the numbers from the polls.

And come on, who does reading the end first really hurt?  It's not like I openned to the back page of Harry Potter in the middle of the bookstore at midnight and screamed out, "Snape is really..."  See, I'm not even giving spoilers here  ;D.  I'm just that person who has to know what happens before it does.  You still get to enjoy seeing how the author gets there, just without all the suspense  ;).
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Has on October 12, 2007, 09:08:49 am
I am one of those evil people and a spoiler junkie  so that doesn't help as well  ;D- I don't know why but I developed this really bad habit of just a quick sneak peak to get a sense of what happens. And sometimes its a good thing to prepare for something you may not like or you may like.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 12, 2007, 09:29:25 am
Yep, and sometimes I might TRY to make it to the end, but it never happens.  Im WAY too noisy for that :D  Even though its not always a good thing.  And if I dont like the ending I dont like it to be sprung up on me, I'd rather be able to brace myself for it.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Zealith on October 12, 2007, 02:57:25 pm
Some times I skip areas I don't like the look of, but I never just skip to the end.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: charmed on October 12, 2007, 03:12:22 pm
I am one of those evil people and a spoiler junkie  so that doesn't help as well  ;D- I don't know why but I developed this really bad habit of just a quick sneak peak to get a sense of what happens. And sometimes its a good thing to prepare for something you may not like or you may like.

I do this too Has. It gives me something to look forward to. :)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Has on October 12, 2007, 03:26:12 pm
 ;D Yay I am not the only one who does this perhaps we should start a support group to try not to feel guilty about doing this ;)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Grey Drakkon on October 12, 2007, 07:57:05 pm
Heathens, all of you. 
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 12, 2007, 07:58:37 pm
Madam!  I'll have you know I'm a pagan, not a heathen!
;-)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: charmed on October 12, 2007, 08:08:48 pm
Do you worship skyclad?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 12, 2007, 08:18:08 pm
Nah.  No Prefrencian.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: charmed on October 12, 2007, 08:24:19 pm
Nah.  No Prefrencian.

Sorry, I only speak English and toddler. translation please?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 12, 2007, 08:31:53 pm
No dancing in the altogether.  And 'No Prefrencian' is a joke from Barry B. Longyear.  City of Baraboo's state religion.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Bruerun on October 12, 2007, 09:34:29 pm
I still vote for ....................................BEN!  but will be happy no matter who she picks.

but secretly rallying the troops for BEN
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 12, 2007, 09:53:11 pm
You have troops?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: deva on October 13, 2007, 05:57:58 am
Ben?!
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 13, 2007, 02:11:08 pm
Heathens, all of you. 

i am right there with you
shame on all who read the end first.

and yeah ben would be kind of like picking stefan lol just someone no one really expects
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 14, 2007, 08:52:02 am
LOL  Who knows, maybe they have a secret affair going on that we dont know about yet ;)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 14, 2007, 08:57:33 am
ahh now that could be. plus the fact that she killed littleton and andre partially because of what they did to him.  also the fact that he changed only to tell what mercy had said and to protect her
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Zealith on October 14, 2007, 12:40:32 pm
Or conversly, she did what she did because of what they did to warren and because she didn't want another demon-vampire, and he changed because he wanted in on the kill.
(Both of which seem more likely though I admit wanted to make sure Mercy wasn't killed might be some of the reason.)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 14, 2007, 01:29:51 pm
yes it could very well be for warren also, but i think that ben was more upset for mercy at that time because he wouldn't even change when anyone else needed/wanted him to
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 14, 2007, 05:29:24 pm
1st:  I think it was for both of them.  And for Adam, Sam, and Stefan being put in cages too.
2nd:  I agree that Ben changed back to help save/make sure Mercy was safe though.
3rd:  I think that Mercy and Ben will end up with more of a Brother and Sister relationship.  Like how B&S's will fight with each other and might want to kill (in Bens case eat ;) ) each other, but under it all they still love each other in a non-romance kind of way.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenniwee on October 14, 2007, 08:41:10 pm
I think Ben and Mercy's bond is pretty strong (you can't keep saving each other without developing some emotional attachment) but I think it's of the unwanted,   antipathetic variety, where they don't necessarily like each other, but at the same time will take out anyone who messes with the other.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: deva on October 14, 2007, 10:16:35 pm
Are we really discussing a *real* possibility of Ben? lol.
Maybe the whole pack influence involves not just Sam and Adam, but Ben as well.  Maybe, since Mercy is obviously holding out on making a choice, other hot weres are thinking they may have a chance and tossing their hats into the ring as well...not to mention the odd vampire.  ;)

Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 15, 2007, 01:15:46 pm
1st:  I think it was for both of them.  And for Adam, Sam, and Stefan being put in cages too.
2nd:  I agree that Ben changed back to help save/make sure Mercy was safe though.
3rd:  I think that Mercy and Ben will end up with more of a Brother and Sister relationship.  Like how B&S's will fight with each other and might want to kill (in Bens case eat ;) ) each other, but under it all they still love each other in a non-romance kind of way.


yes mercy going after andre was DEFINITELY because of what sam, adam, and stefan all went through but it was also for ben.  and yeahwe are talking about the possibility of ben lol though i think we all know it really would never happen, along with the odd vampire  ;)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 15, 2007, 02:02:35 pm
LOL but cant you just see the all little Beny's running around?  Or the occasional little blood sucker Jr?

Heres what I think all the guys would tell their kids if they ended up with Mercy.  They are stupid but I was/am bored :P
Stefan: you have my eyes (especially when your hungry).
Ben:  remember: never trust the woman.  they are all ____________ (female genitalias-I have NO clue what that means)
Adam:  if you let them think THEY'RE the ones in control, then they wont be able to call you a control freak, or a bastard.
Sam:  all my x's live in Texas.  Except for your mother when we broke up.  She just moved to the Tri-Cities.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 15, 2007, 02:03:46 pm
lol that is soooo great
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 15, 2007, 02:12:31 pm
That is pretty good. ;-)
But how serious are you about not knowing what Ben was talking about?
What if she went completely where we don't expect? -- Tony!
-You have my  profession, and with your mom's talents, you're going to kick butt, kid.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 15, 2007, 05:40:38 pm
lol thats another good one.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 15, 2007, 06:42:07 pm
LOL  it is :)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 15, 2007, 06:43:36 pm
Or it could be like:  Remember DONT bite the other kids.  And dont flirt with the German Shepards.  They are 100% dog.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 15, 2007, 06:59:22 pm
nice i like how these are all sarcastic comments that really are more for humor.  i wonder what would be some more sincere words of wisdom?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 12:43:16 pm
wisdom for what?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 12:51:57 pm
things that could happen like about being an alpha or the hardships of being a lone wolf.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 01:08:22 pm
funny ones?  or serious?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 01:15:46 pm
both, i am not a very sarcastic person, if you couldn't tell, so humor is soooo bad. I am always serious.

phew sorry that was hard for me to manage lol  ;D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 01:26:51 pm
LOL  I'll think about something to put :)

But my serious will probably come out sarcastic anyways :D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 01:33:25 pm
Heres one:

Remeber just because I have some bandages DOES NOT mean I got in a fight.  It might just mean that I had to give away some of my body (skin, bone, muscle, and or tissues) -Stop drooling!- so that it can be given away to somebody else.
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It sucks but until I can think of a better one, it'll have to do :)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 01:36:23 pm
lol it doesnt suck i love the "stop drooling" part it just makes it so much better lol

i like one for stefan if he doesnt end up with mercy but does somehow have kids:
now remember son if you ever need to spend the day at someone else's house, never, i mean never, tell them that you will be dead during the day and not asleep.  Thats part of how i lost my first love.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 01:39:05 pm
LOL  that ones great :D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 01:39:30 pm
we should make our own topic thing for these :)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 01:42:54 pm
thanks! :D and what a wonderful idea i just did.  :D i hope we can come up with some more great ones!
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 01:46:42 pm
lol  yep :)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 02:04:16 pm
hee hee so much fun
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 02:05:45 pm
lol definately
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 02:15:12 pm
yup yup, i like your picture its cool
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 02:18:22 pm
Thanks :)  I like yours too
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 02:29:05 pm
thanks i was looking for something more purple-ish but i couldnt find it
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 02:48:43 pm
I still like that one :)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 02:53:41 pm
thanks, me too, its just my fav. color is purple so i thought that it'd be so cool if i could get it in there too.

we shouold probably start talking about wannabe weres now shouldn't we
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 16, 2007, 03:18:53 pm
Nope, this is Iron Kissed; pack influence, see?  That's what you should be talking about.  You can PM each other or go to the chat room instead if you'ld like, too.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 16, 2007, 03:41:52 pm
ahh sorry i could've sworn i was in the wannabe werewolf club lol my bad

the pack will probably have a big influence in her choice plus the fact the sam isn't part of it
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 16, 2007, 05:26:49 pm
could Mercy and Sam start their own pack?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Fairyfreak on October 17, 2007, 12:28:10 pm
could Mercy and Sam start their own pack?

Not in Adam's territory.  I don't think alphas are big on sharing turf. 
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Has on October 17, 2007, 12:58:10 pm
Also in Blood Bound I think Mercy mentions that although Sam is more dominant than Adam- Adam is more Alpha than Sam. Could that be a factor in Sam becoming an Alpha of another pack. Does he really want to be one?  Because I get the gist that he has no desire to become a pack leader despite being dominant.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 17, 2007, 01:00:30 pm
Would it be possible for Sam to join a pack, but not be the alpha even though he's more dominant?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 17, 2007, 02:18:28 pm
Sure.  Some people are born second bananas & know it.  Think of Spock.  He could do the captain thing, but liked being 1st officer.  Ditto Will Riker.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 17, 2007, 02:20:39 pm
i think sam could be an alpha if he wanted to and of course he didnt have to be i mean just look at warren and how he hides how strong he is because he doesn't really want to be ranked any higher in the pack
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 18, 2007, 01:01:39 pm
LOL  I have NO clue who Spock or Will Riker are!

I wonder that if Mercy did choose Adam (crosses fingers hopefully) if Sam would petition to join the pack or challenge Adam's authority...
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 18, 2007, 01:24:47 pm
Sure, either or both, but why?  It's not going to make it better between him & Mercy, quite the contrary.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on October 18, 2007, 01:32:29 pm
yeah, but he might just be angry about her choice.  Neither of them is going to like being told "No, I like the other guy".  I think there is potential for a bit of nastiness no matter who she chooses.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 18, 2007, 01:58:50 pm
Quite true, witness Adam's ex.  Shoot, humans being what they are, (& all weres started as humans) ONE person can cause nastiness for him/herself!  But it still won't help them.
If Sam did that, it's entirely possible that Mercy, having made her decision to throw in with Adam, would partner him in driving Sam off, even killing him if they had to.  I doubt it would come to that, but if it did, I could almost see it.
Really, I think that if she should choose Adam, she might call Bran & ask him to come ride herd on Sam, or even take him away, at least for a while.  And I think she'd make that call before she made her choice public, just to prevent those problems.
Again, that's just me, off the top of my head.  Oh- or is that just off my head? ;)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Has on October 18, 2007, 02:15:38 pm
I totally agree with you Patti- Although I feel Adam is the best choice. I don't think that this will be the end of the love triangle and do you think Sam is going to give up on Mercy if she chose Adam, especially if he sees her as a lifeline. I have a feeling things will definitely get more interesting after Iron Kissed. ;)
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 18, 2007, 02:28:06 pm
 :o Now that's got a good likelihood of being true!  Yes, it will continue to be interesting after IK, & may escalate in some ways.
Giving up - well, that's kind of iffy, in my opinion.  I think that, at least on the higher surface levels, Sam would -if he's not chosen, mind!- act the gentleman.  He wouldn't be pressing close, kissing her, etc.  He'd move out of her trailer, unless she moved in with Adam & rented the whole thing to him.  But he'd be around the edges, watching them.
And a lifeline can keep you from drowning just by giving you something to keep your head above water, even if for some reason you don't get pulled aboard the boat right away.  Sometimes you get pulled onto a different boat.  I think that that's what I'd hope for, for Sam, if he's not Mercy's choice.
(I'm very pleased with that analogy, by the way. 8) )
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Has on October 18, 2007, 02:35:39 pm
Also another thing to consider which i forgot to put in my previous post is that Sam has lived for a very long time and although he has issues - He has never given up. And I don't think he will with this, if Mercy chooses Adam.
Also both Patty and in the first chapter of Iron Kissed  Mercy have stated that Sam is a patient predator. I think that Adam and Sam are going to clash despite Mercy choosing one of them because they both want her badly and if one of them is rejected its just going to make things even more tense. I don't think either one would give up easily on her even though custom may dictate it.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 18, 2007, 02:44:25 pm
You're right, Has.  And human nature would make them do it even though it might very easily drive Mercy away from BOTH of them.  Sometimes you wonder about the committee that designed humanity, don't you?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Has on October 18, 2007, 03:00:41 pm
Yup especially when human nature is cruel and selfish. Funny enough I watched The Invasion yesterday - it was an average remake but what hit me was the point the film makes about humanity and our nature. Yes there are bad and negative aspects but there is also passion, joy  and love. Sometimes you have to take and accept the bad with the good and I suppose you can't change it because its impossible. To do so wouldn't make us humans and I bet that is going to be a factor with Sam and Adam although they have werewolves instincts they are also humans. Its definitely going to be interesting how this all plays out especially along with the looming problems with the vampires and perhaps the fae.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 18, 2007, 03:49:44 pm
wow all this really makes me unable to wait any longer! whichever one mercy chooses, the other will not give up.  he'll sit behind on the sidelines and wait for his chance. like you guys said sam is a patient hunter and adam is an alpha so he is used to manipulating the situation into his favor, so either one will be sneaky while at the same time gentleman-like about getting mercy back.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 18, 2007, 05:59:13 pm
I think Jessie could also help decide who she chooses.  I'll post more later, but right now I cant get whats in my head into words :(
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 18, 2007, 08:34:16 pm
I'll post more later, but right now I cant get whats in my head into words :(
I hate when that happens. ;-P
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 19, 2007, 11:46:12 am
LOL  I still cant really get it into words but...I'll try :(

Mercy might feel like Jessie would be an added responsibility and that if she and Adam has a child their child would get the back seat because of how protective Adam is of Jessie.
Or she could feel the exact oppostite and love the idea of being able to have a closer relationship with Jessie.

Still not really what Im thinkin, but its as close as I can get :(
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 19, 2007, 12:24:06 pm
it sounds like it could go either way with jesse's influence too
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: jenglows on October 19, 2007, 04:16:25 pm
Jesse seems to be a very mature and stable teenager, I really like her character in the books but...
 I don't think any step-mom/step-daughter relationship is without tension- even when everyone involved is well-intentioned ;).  There is a lot of potential stress in the Mercy/Jesse situation that will make things harder for them if she chooses Adam.  (the pack problems with Mercy, Jesse's Crazy mom, Adam as a protective father & Jesse as a teenager … et cetera).
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Has on October 19, 2007, 04:45:55 pm
I think there will be more tension with Adam's ex than with Jesse if Mercy goes with this choice. The potential for drama is there especially if Mercy could offer Adam things that his ex couldn't give.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: charmed on October 19, 2007, 07:34:13 pm
I agree with Has, I think that while there would step-parenting issues, the bigger issue woudl be Jessie's mom, I can't remember her name. I think that Jessie and Mercy would get on pretty well, or as well as any teen and parent get along. I like my stepmother, and compared to my other sibs, I didn't give her a hard time but...............I was a teenager. 'Nuff said. :D

I do think a major sticking point for Adam and Mercy, besides his control issues :P, will be Mercy and the pack. We have seen how she and werewolves get along, and Mercy definitely has a contrary streak. If she and Adam married, would she be expected to abide by pack rules, woudl she be given some leeway since she's a walker, and just how accomodatign would Mercy be? :D
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 19, 2007, 07:42:55 pm
Yes, I think you're right.  Mercy's contrary streak is as natural to her & ingrained as the control thing is with werewolves, so there would continue to be friction with the pack.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 21, 2007, 04:57:55 pm
Yep, but she would also take her position from Adam, and that would put her above the rest of the pack and everyone who is below Adam wouldnt it?  And I dont think that Sam and Bran would be a problem because shes like family to them, and they are used to her not listening to them.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 21, 2007, 05:15:26 pm
Check in with some people who are in workplaces where there's a clear chain of command.  Just because person A "has" to obey person B it doesn't mean there isn't friction & petty disobedience. 
Have you ever read Robert Heinlein's book "The Number of the Beast"?  Check out the 'white mutiny' in that!
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 21, 2007, 05:26:39 pm
Nope I've never read that one.  Whats it about?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on October 21, 2007, 05:41:52 pm
Boy, that's hard to answer quickly.  Basically, he weaves together several of his adult SF books through a scientist discovering a way to move between realities, a bit like the TV show Sliders, except he keeps better control of it.  His daughter, her ex-military & quickly acquired husband, & the scientists ladyfriend who finagles him into marrying her are the crew of the possibility ship.  They discover another race of intelligent beings have discovered the same process & are killing off others who do the same, so they have to run.  They meet Lazarus Long & a lot of his other major characters.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on October 21, 2007, 05:52:42 pm
OOOO
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on October 22, 2007, 05:23:54 pm
i dont think she would have that much of a problem with sam and bran and adam, i think the rest of the pack would really be unhappy following her (being a coyote) and she would know when to behave because like she said - she controls her emotions as to being controlled by them.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: eyesore on November 11, 2007, 09:51:27 am
no. i kinda hope she chooses sam. even from the beginning. there's something about him that makes me feel like he loves Mercy a LOT. not just as a broodmare. that he just doesn't want to admit it even to himself because if she chosses adam he'll(samuel) be so hurt. but wouldn't that get under his skin if she and adam have kids?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on November 11, 2007, 01:16:33 pm
yeah me too i fell the same about sam, and i think it would kill him (maybe even literally) if he doesn't get chosen
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Zealith on November 14, 2007, 04:08:31 pm
Since this seems to, at least breifly, be turning into a who will she choose thread... I wuold like to say I don't want her to end up with Sam. He may love her, but I think she loves him like an old friend, and is in lust with him, but not it love. I'm not sure if she's in love with Adam either, but she does seem to be leaning more that direction.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on November 14, 2007, 04:11:46 pm
yes but now that sam has shown his feelings she is thinking about himm more also insteadof just going  to adam - i think either one is great for her
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on November 17, 2007, 01:08:36 am
I think Adam would be healthier for her though.  Hes seems to honestly be making more of an effort to control himself around mercy.  And Sam it seems like just does stuff when he knows that she is going out with Adam.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on November 17, 2007, 10:29:07 am
that is true but its also because he is a patient hunter and gets jealous of adam and doesn't want to be out of the running
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Patti L. on November 17, 2007, 11:58:24 am
Given how little (except for the recent crisis situations) Mercy ordinarily interacts with the pack, I wonder how much influence they *can* have on her?  They can, as a group, do some limited magic, but are they united enough to try to use it, if it can be bent that way, to push her whichever direction they'd prefer?
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Iris101 on November 17, 2007, 05:40:33 pm
I doubt they could do it without Adam, Warran, Honey (I think she would help Mercy), and/or Darryl (I think he would help her too) noticing.  And if Sam really wanted her as a mate in human and wolf then he wouldnt let them get away with it.
Title: Re: Iron Kissed -- RE: Pack influence on Mercy's Choice
Post by: Kiersten Walks Funny on November 17, 2007, 09:36:47 pm
yeah i think a lot of the magic the pack has is only really useful with the alpha, and adam has respect for mercy so he won't try to influence her choice using magic - he values her too much i think