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Title: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Triakel on July 05, 2008, 01:48:51 pm
I'm soooooooooooooooo excited, I can't even spell right. And I'm shouting. Sorry. But I have to set my clock tomorrow so I can invade SF Bokhandeln when they open. I can't belive it's here already. Why didn't I check the release list on friday night? I could have had it in my hand today! I could have read it already!!!

BTW, I thought it wouldn't be released until august? Does anyone know why my bookstore gets books early? I'm starting to think there's a mystery here. The Anita books, Christine Feehans books, Patty's books. Gotten all of them ahead of release date. Is there an earlier releasedate for europe? Are they testing things in my tiny (but extremely well-stocked) swedish SF/Fantasy bookstore? Do they have a Terry Pratchett-like sorting machine in the basement (you know, Going Postal)?

/L

ETA: Title modified. Elle
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Mike Briggs on July 05, 2008, 02:14:46 pm
Cook Triakel
I suspect that what's happening is that your awesome little bookstore, because it's not in the USA, is able to put the books on the shelves as soon as their stock arrives rather than holding it for the release date.    Most US-based stores will have to hold the book until the 29th of the month, though many of them fudge by a week or so.  ;)


Hope you enjoy the book!

All best,
Mike
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Triakel on July 05, 2008, 02:37:43 pm
Oh, so they're doing something wrong? I'm not sure how I feel about that!
I mean, I love that I get to read it tomorrow. But I hope noone gets hurt by it. Could they get in trouble if the publishers found out?

Hmm. I'll still buy it tomorrow though!  ;D

Ps.
And I just caught up with the board (I've been at our country-house all summer) and I read about what you guys been through, and best wishes to Patty and all your family Mike!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: charmed on July 05, 2008, 03:19:05 pm
A member at another board mentioned yesterday that already had his copy of Cry Wolf. He lives in Sweden, the lucky guy.

enjoy Triakel!!!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Mike Briggs on July 05, 2008, 07:52:32 pm
Oh, so they're doing something wrong? I'm not sure how I feel about that!
I mean, I love that I get to read it tomorrow. But I hope noone gets hurt by it. Could they get in trouble if the publishers found out?

Hmm. I'll still buy it tomorrow though!  ;D

Ps.
And I just caught up with the board (I've been at our country-house all summer) and I read about what you guys been through, and best wishes to Patty and all your family Mike!


No worries Triakel.  Really, there's two reasons the publishers set release dates.  The first is to give all bookstores a "fair" start on selling a book they expect to be popular.  The second is to maximize the possibility that a given book will place on the best seller lists.   We're hoping to see "Cry Wolf" on the bestseller lists, but it's mostly just an ego boost.    I'm not sure foreign sales even count for those.   Foreign sales are much more loosely regulated, so I'm sure your bookstore isn't doing anything wrong.   In the US, a bookstore might get their hand slapped for releasing a book with a hard sell date early, but it's not a huge issue.  As I said, many bookstores fudge by a week or so.

At any rate, our earning depend on the total sales, not the time of the sales.  As long as you're not downloading a torrent of the book, we're tickled pink with sales wherever and however we can get them.   Sleep well Triakel, and enjoy your book guilt-free. ;D

P.S.  Thanks for the good wishes.  Patty's doing beautifully, healing up nicely, and is back to writing a few hours a day.   I'm sure the thoughts and prayers of everyone on the forums have paid off.  Thanks again! ;D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Gerd D. on July 06, 2008, 03:26:36 am
Ahw, I'm so going to move to Sweden!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Snoopy on July 06, 2008, 04:29:10 am
Ahw, I'm so going to move to Sweden!
*envious Hulk-green from toes to scalp* YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES ME TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! GAAAAAHH!!!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: white_unicorn on July 06, 2008, 06:46:56 am
I had already planned on moving up to Sweden... Now I have one more reason.... "Auntie, I am coming up!!!!" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: kerrilouise on July 06, 2008, 08:07:58 am
I picked up my copy of Cry Wolf on Tuesday from Murder One in London.

I know that they were flying out the door like hotcakes.

I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to the next Anna book.

Kerri
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on July 06, 2008, 08:17:17 am
Thanks for the heads up!!!!
I preordered but via amazon US - this will save me postage costs- I dont understand why amazon UK wont release the book with the US release date :P

Edit: I just ordered it! Although Murder One are out of stock at the moment- they will have more copies this Tuesday- and they will mail out the books to you.

Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 06, 2008, 12:04:17 pm
How bizarre! I'll be calling Murder One first thing tomorrow!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: rox_squirrel on July 06, 2008, 07:39:21 pm
i'm in the U.S. and i WAAANNNNTTTTTSSSSS it! i wants it, i wants it, i wants it!  (throws tantrum like little child) :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

p.s. (yes, the bad grammar is on purpose and enjoy the book for those who are lucky and get it early)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 06, 2008, 07:58:36 pm
Really strange how it's available in Sweden, but not Italy, Germany, or Britain, and not yet in the US.
I thought we'd be getting it before our European contingent, & we'd want to work the next writing challenge around that.
Now it's going to be even harder.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: CheeseBK on July 06, 2008, 10:36:44 pm
*glares in the general direction of sweden* how come you up there in the north are so lucky?????  *cries*
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 07, 2008, 02:28:42 am
Just called that Murder One place in London. I HAVE A COPY!!!! It'll be sent out to me next Tues, so I should get it Wed or Thurs next week.

SOOOOOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Thankyou so much Kerri for the pointer!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on July 09, 2008, 09:33:40 am

Enjoy reading!

I am a little envious, but i made it trough the last month,
i will get trough the last few week´s.
Really exited!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Triakel on July 09, 2008, 12:52:16 pm
*gloating*
I'm back from the country, and I just popped by to say Cry Wolf was SUPER DUPER MARVELOUS GREAT and every other thing you can think of.
*content sigh*
I've already re-read it!
hehehe

No, I'm gonna stop being smug, and do the "cheer up" thing. Think of it this way. If you haven't read it yet you can savour still having it to read, if you know what I mean?

Hugs
Triakel
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: me on July 09, 2008, 04:13:42 pm

No, I'm gonna stop being smug, and do the "cheer up" thing. Think of it this way. If you haven't read it yet you can savour still having it to read, if you know what I mean?


That's just mean! I have to get to the book store and see when I can get a copy in Canada. I had to order Iron Kissed and Blood Bound from the States so it took a WEEK longer :'(. Oh well. Glad you enjoyed it Triakel!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Elle on July 09, 2008, 04:30:31 pm
me, where are you in Canada? You can pre-order Cry Wolf now at chapters.indigo.ca I'm in AB and have had not bad luck finding the books on the release date.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 07:49:24 am
ARGH!  I posted in the Ask Patty section, then realized you were here as well and that you're in Sweden ;).  Yeah, I wish I were in Sweden now, too!  Glad you've enjoyed it; I'm sure I will too, once I get my hands on it.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Faellie on July 15, 2008, 04:13:03 am
Murder One is the business.  I got my copy of Cry Wolf from them last week, and was carefully not mentioning it in case it caused trouble.  But given Mike's kind and understanding words about foreign release dates, I feel able to admit it now.

Cry Wolf is a wonderful book.  I love it.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Fonseca on July 16, 2008, 10:50:11 am
Just got off the phone with my local Barnes & Noble. He said that though the book is listed as July 29th, it has no lay down date.

That means that as soon as the store receives its weekly (probably) shipment from Ace (Penguin Putnam), they can put it out instead of storing it in the back room until the 29th.

So call your local store. You might get lucky and be able to get a copy sometime mid next week - maybe even Friday this week. Just depends on when the store gets it shipment.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Tambayo on July 16, 2008, 12:10:18 pm
NL has it already (was in Amsterdam today) Date stamp on pricesticker said 30/06, so looks like Europe got theirs realy early?
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: emmad on July 16, 2008, 12:33:40 pm
I use www.bookdepository.co.uk a bit as has free international shipping.  Works out cheaper even though the books can be slightly more expensive.
Checked and they don't have Cry Wolf in stock but went from there to www.abebooks.com and they do with lots of different options.  Also look like they offer free shipping too.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Jessica on July 16, 2008, 03:02:04 pm
I ordered a copy from Powell's and it has an estimated arrival date of July 22.  They show 25 copies (minus one for me!) in their were-house. 
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Gerd D. on July 17, 2008, 03:40:12 am
www.bol.de has it listed as readily available, ordered it today.
On Amazon it still has a 'can be preordered' status.

Edit: According to bol it's on its way, so I should have it by tomorro or Monday the latest. Yay!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on July 18, 2008, 03:44:21 am
Edit: According to bol it's on its way, so I should have it by tomorro or Monday the latest. Yay!

That would mean i would have mine next Monday!
When i talked with their Telefonservice, they were not sure.

Thank you for the information!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 18, 2008, 04:03:10 am
How annoying! Murder One has been told that the orginal 100 books that they had were released early by mistake, so when requesting more they were told they would have to wait.

So... I've now ordered through abebooks, who say the book will arrive in 1-2 weeks. Hope it does.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on July 18, 2008, 07:33:47 am
I got the same message Temari- But I spoke to one of the staff yesterday and she said that new books should arrive next Tuesday. I will be getting it there because my original order was through amazon US, which I cancelled. I still dont know why Amazon UK is saying the book wont be available until October the 9th and this is US edition  :(
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 18, 2008, 11:49:22 am
Well - they said that to me too. But when I pushed a bit they said they hoped they would be there next Tuesday....
Whether I call again on Tues and order one if they have come in is another question... nothing wrong with having 2 copies  :)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on July 19, 2008, 07:37:56 am

In my email were this message now:

Folgende Titel fehlen der Verlagsauslieferung zur Zeit am Lager:

Menge     Artikel                                     

  1      Briggs, P: Cry Wolf                         

Laut Verlag wird die Auslieferung in Kürze erfolgen.

Ihre Bestellung wird aufrecht erhalten.


This means Bol.de don´t have it in Stock ( anymore, at the moment).
Well i just wait now.

greetings
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 19, 2008, 10:03:27 am
Aww, you're stuck waiting with the rest of us.  Nudge over, everybody, give Demi room to sit down.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Gerd D. on July 19, 2008, 10:22:59 am
We just have to hope then that it isn't the October release date, which they have on Amazon.de, for us. :o
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 19, 2008, 10:26:59 am
That's what I was worried about with Murder One. At least getting it from the US I know that it will be released soon.

I wouldn't have minded if I knew how long I had to wait. Getting my hopes up that I'd get it earlier was cruel though.   :(

*sits down in the Cry Wolf waiting room, flicking absently through some old magazines*
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 19, 2008, 10:37:25 am
Don't waste your time on old magazines, get on the forum & post.  Play some of the games, follow up on your challenge story, write on one of the others!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 19, 2008, 10:46:34 am
Don't waste your time on old magazines, get on the forum & post.  Play some of the games, follow up on your challenge story, write on one of the others!
But that's what you do in waiting rooms!

Got a bit busy on the work front - ate into that time I meant to spend writing stories. Bad work.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 19, 2008, 10:55:52 am
*rips out the waiting room* 
Go elsewhere!  Write!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 19, 2008, 11:06:55 am
*potters off to Patti's place instead* Nice food there. Could find a quiet table in the corner and think about writing  :)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Andrea R on July 19, 2008, 01:11:04 pm
Hello all, I've just joined the forum to let you know that Cry Wolf has arrived in Western Massachusetts!  I got it at Barnes & Noble today.  It's in a cardboard stand-alone rack, not actually on the regular shelves so you might miss it if you don't look for those new book displays.  Nice presentation.

Wouldn't you know that I have a concert to attend tonight so I'm debating about starting it now or waiting until after the concert.  Hmm. 

Happy reading!!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 19, 2008, 01:25:32 pm
Oooo more reason for me to get off my duff.  I could go see Opramum bellydance, then check the West Seattle B&N . . .
I want to drag the cat along, remind her leaving the house doesn't mean doom & danger to her.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: BlackCat13 on July 19, 2008, 08:22:24 pm
I got my (several) calls yesterday about the book being available at all my local stores! I have now ended up with three copies! Spreading the Patricia-Briggs-goodness over here with everyone! ;D Woo-hoo! :D I am already re-reading it! Lol! :P Love the Bone Crossed excerpt! Holy Cow Batman, I love-love it! 8)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Tirya on July 19, 2008, 08:29:24 pm
Why oh why didn't I check these boards before Barnes & Noble closed for the evening???  :)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: ArtAngel on July 20, 2008, 02:40:30 am
 I just ordered  it from Abebooks.com!!! It's in the mail already!!! Hurrah! I can't wait :'( ;D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Lightning on July 20, 2008, 06:59:24 am
when will it be released in canada?
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: sapril on July 20, 2008, 07:01:34 am
The book store I usually go to (since it's the closet) is Books-a-million.  They still have an August release date.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Lightning on July 20, 2008, 07:03:21 am
ya but what day?
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Fonseca on July 20, 2008, 09:56:52 am
TODAY  :D

Sunday, July 20. Called my local B&N and they had just put out the display. I'm on my way over to pick it up now. Do Not Disturb for rest of evening!!!!!

May your Sunday be as joyous as mine!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 20, 2008, 10:04:12 am
Hmm, I've got a B&N business card right in front of me.  I should log off & call.
Not yet though.  I'm going to finish catching up on some things, then I'm off to see if Opramum is still bellydancing in West Seattle.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on July 20, 2008, 12:02:38 pm
*walks in the room*
*sits down*
*starts crying*

wanna read... this book...*sob*
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Tirya on July 20, 2008, 05:16:03 pm
Went to my local B&N today, they still show the release date as July 29, and seemed surprised that other B&N outlets had "jumped the gun" and put it out early...?

 ???
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: gryphon340 on July 20, 2008, 05:18:34 pm
It is not sos, as soon as they get it can be placed for sale
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 20, 2008, 05:50:33 pm
Which doesn't seem to have happened west of the Mississippi.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: charmed on July 20, 2008, 05:59:01 pm
Actually, Barnes & Noble seems to be having trouble with release dates this summer. They also messed up the release, and the in-store positioning of Kelley Armstrong's new series The Darkest Power. The release date of the first book, The Summoning, was changed a couple months ago, and yet B&N  still showed the oriiginal release date as of last week, a full 2 weeks after the release date.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 20, 2008, 06:27:00 pm
I checked in at the info desk with one of my ex-colleagues, & she found none in the computer system for the store.
I did physical walk through anyway, as I did in Borders.  No joy for me.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: CheeseBK on July 20, 2008, 08:38:48 pm
*sighs* It's going to be FOREVER for me. I'm going to buy a copy when I'm in the US end of August. BUt better than via amazon. If I would order via amazon I would get it in October!

Hmmmm I think I have to do a list on books I want to buy when I'm in the STates ;)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 20, 2008, 08:55:38 pm
And how to fit them in your luggage, eh?
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: CheeseBK on July 21, 2008, 01:32:57 am
And how to fit them in your luggage, eh?

throw everything else out, I say ;)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Fonseca on July 21, 2008, 03:16:26 am
Not to brag . . . but for those of you without a great customer service oriented B&N like mine . . . Cry Wolf is wonderful! I finished a marathon reading last evening and will return to it this evening for a more leisurely read.

So, Patty - when's the next Alpha & Omega book out?  ;)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Gerd D. on July 21, 2008, 03:46:20 am
Cry Wolf arrived in the mail today, phew!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: ppbwashu on July 21, 2008, 12:50:04 pm
I have a valid reason for waiting until the hard sell date.  Actually, I have several (yes, I know, nobody expected a bloody Spanish Inquisition).  First reason, I want Cry Wolf to hit the bestseller list.  Second reason, I'm flying to Oak Ridge, TN and need something to read on the flights.  Third reason, I'm too tired to risk reading it before then.  Last week I borrowed a Dean Koontz novel from a coworker (The Good Guy), and ended up reading the whole thing at the expense of my sleep cycle.  I need several uninterrupted hours for this, and by waiting until the flights, I won't neglect my children and feel guilty about it!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Snoopy on July 21, 2008, 09:40:30 pm
Cry Wolf arrived in the mail today, phew!

*in a voice like Lucy yelling at Charlie Brown*
WHERE DID YOU ORDER IT???? HOW CAN WE OTHER GERMANS GET OUR TREMBLING HANDS ON IT ASAP??????
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Jessica on July 22, 2008, 11:43:16 am
My copy arrived yesterday and has been consumed.  Hooray for Powells!

http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-9780441016150-0 
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Tambayo on July 22, 2008, 12:42:20 pm
Cry Wolf arrived in the mail today, phew!

*in a voice like Lucy yelling at Charlie Brown*
WHERE DID YOU ORDER IT???? HOW CAN WE OTHER GERMANS GET OUR TREMBLING HANDS ON IT ASAP??????
Try emailing www.abc.nl
It's in their store although the website lists it as not yet published.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: fyreesper on July 23, 2008, 12:48:00 pm
I feel like a bookstore stalker waiting for Cry Wolf, hunting through all the local and chain bookstores in the area!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: munkee on July 24, 2008, 02:55:46 pm
I called my B&N and they're like, uhm, no, it's not slated to come out till the 29th, ma'am.
all in that "you should know better voice"

this coming from the store that has been NOTORIOUS for not actually being big enough to GET deliveries on time.
oh I'm annoyed.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 24, 2008, 06:11:25 pm
I went into the B&N in Downtown Seattle where I used to work on Sunday, just in case.  Their computer said the same, I checked the shelves just in case (no joy), and then I stopped in the Borders a few blocks away, because I've seen several times when they got their shipments faster than the B&N.  I suspect they're nicer to the reps from the distribution companies.

Oh, I forgot to say, Borders didn't have it in either.  Maybe Saturday after work, "Women in Leadership" training, and the birthday party for my quasi-brother-in-law.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: ppbwashu on July 25, 2008, 08:27:57 am
I stopped at The Bookworm on my way home from KGH yesterday, and picked up Cry Wolf and In Odd We Trust, Dean Koontz first graphic novel about Odd Thomas.  I still don't plan to read either until I get on the plane Tuesday morning, though, 'cause I just got Blood Noir in the mail yesterday, and I don't like to carry hardcovers on planes.

BTW, I really think that Patty should mention The Bookworm in one of the Mercy novels.  ;D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: luvstraberries on July 25, 2008, 10:16:25 am
NO WAY!!!   :'(  Boo hoo sobbing over here... I am on pins and needles to get my aching hands on Charles and Anna!!

My BN will give me a call when this is ready to be picked up, I thought that was great and now I hear this!!

BIG SIGH   ::)... Tuesday can't get here quick enough!  I'm going to run over during my lunch hour!!

Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on July 25, 2008, 12:06:19 pm
I got my copy of Cry Wolf today- :D
So if anyone in the UK cant get hold of the book- I definitely recommend Revolution books at Abebooks/ they are also known as Langton Info service.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Stevie Marie on July 25, 2008, 02:41:33 pm
Ok... I am soo happy to have gotten my hands on this book on the 22nd. I didnt expect it till this weekend and got a email from my local barnes and noble to tell me to come in and get it. I absolutely LOVED the  book. I am on pins and needles for the next edition.. and I especially like the preview of the next mercy book... cant wait for that one either...
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: gryphon340 on July 25, 2008, 05:26:24 pm
got at 1024am finished it by 1830pm, and made econmic goal too. The raises more questions( too spoiler to place here). PLus I have the hymm stuck in head I don't remember all words.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Elle on July 25, 2008, 08:02:48 pm
Everyone there's a thread for Cry Wolf discussion in this section. It's pinned at the top so discuss away if you'd like. :)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: therhoda on July 25, 2008, 09:26:40 pm
Okay i got this and gobbled it UP. I was really more distressed by the except at the back than this story. February is WAY to long to wait for this.

i have to say that the Characters in this book were interesting. The fact that as most of us have suspected there was SO much more to Bran than anyone would have suspected. the arch type os Asil as The Moor interested me. As did the witch blood lines.  I do wonder if the power behind Bran and Asil is a blending of being a werewolf and strong witch blood. then with the except i got to thinking about creepy boy and vampires. It could be an interesting power base to consider.

*goes back to gibbering for more BC* Which i am interested in seeing is an actual hard back, that has to be exciting for Patty
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Gerd D. on July 26, 2008, 01:52:44 am
Loved the book, especially the fact that it reads quite different than the Mercy books.

Anna's past gave me some trouble, that certainly was a less fun part to read but most important to the understanding of Anna's character who I grew to like a lot for being not as happy-go-lucky as Mercy tends to be.

The juxtapositoning of Anna's & Charles's thoughts and feelings was great, especially as both in their own own way, while not always being perfectly reasonable, make perfect sense.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: ForGetMeNot on July 26, 2008, 08:54:11 am
 ;D

It's here in NL !  I'm on my way to get my copy !

Come on bus just get here already, if it wasn't so freaking hot here today I'd walk to the bookstore.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: fyreesper on July 26, 2008, 10:16:59 am
I liked the book a lot, especially getting to hear more about Bran's past, but I would have liked to see a bit more of Anna and Charles interaction, I felt a lot of times they were assuming what the other was thinking and feeling without asking, which led to a lot of confusion for them both. But I do have a question - the book said that Bran's mother - a witch - forced the change on her son and grandson (I assume that was Samuel). Does that mean that Bran and Sam have been wolves for an equal amount of time?
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: fyreesper on July 26, 2008, 10:19:14 am
Hey, I got my copy yesterday and finished it yesterday too! Anybody who is waiting for a call or email from B&N, I suggest you call them, because I put an order on hold with them, and they never called or emailed me, even though they had it behind the counter waiting for me. Interestingly, they had my copy behind the counter but it wasn't on the shelves yet.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: munkee on July 26, 2008, 11:57:44 am
I ordered through B&N.com, so I'm kinda sol till they ship it to me. which means that while I'm away at the inlaws, my book will be here at the house waiting for me...mocking me. it's so not fair.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on July 26, 2008, 01:46:04 pm
Thanks Elle for opening the thread :D

I loved  this book- I definitely think this book was more romantic which definitely pleased the romance reader in me -and in some ways it was more gentler in tone compared to the Mercy series but I do think it was darker, and I like that juxtoposition ;D.
I especially loved how the relationship between Charles and Anna unfurled and I cannot wait to see what gifts their mating bond will bring.
I was also pretty shocked about Bran and Sam's past and I think Bran was changed first and then either tried to kill Sam but changed him instead while he killed the rest of his family. I cant believe his mother was that warped to do that to her own family but her quest for power must have been addictive. Poor Sam  and Bran :(

I also hope we get to see more of Asil and Sage - I loved Asil teasing  Charles and it was fun to see that stoicism crack and I hope we get to see Sage's history and why she is with Marrok. I love the line that Anna stated to Charles that the pack was full of psychos lol :D

I also dont think the situation with Leah is sustainable- Bran commented that having acceptance is enough for mating - but there is no trust and love and without that I think there could be cause for trouble later. I think Bran was protecting himself from ever loving anyone again like he did his wife but the events shown in Cry Wolf shows that is no guarantee to control his beast.
I also think Leah's reaction to Anna was interesting and I wonder what will happen now that there is someone Leah cant really control or touch using her rank since Anna is an Omega as well as the abilities drawing out her vulnerabilities and insecurities. I think that could cause instability within the pack with Leah's unhappiness that Charles has mated with an Omega although that scene was funny when she fled from Anna's presence.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: nottled on July 26, 2008, 04:09:51 pm
I loved this book. I thought the main thing to remember is that it's different from the Mercy books. I remember Mike saying that they were worried it would flop but this is one happy fan. I did feel that it was a little stiff in the 'getting to know you' section. I don't like blatant misunderstandings between lovers and when Charles and Anna kept having little moments of insecurity, I didn't have the patience for it. Those are just my personal feelings.

However, once the story started to flow I was sucked in and happily in the world again. I think it's just the 'virgin pains' of the series and the rest are going to be spectacular.

I loved Sage and I hope Asil stops being the 'crazier than a s!*t-house rat' guy. He's much more interesting when he's being a noodge. :D

I still don't like Leah. I know Bran treats her like crap sometimes but I just can't feel sorry for her. I hope something happens to her and Bran realizes that now Anna is around, he could actually have a decent mate. Either that or Patty finds a way to humanize her that surprises us.

All in all, at the risk of sounding squee, I loved it. Brilliant writing and crystal clear description. I think it was a great set up for this world. It wasn't as good as Moon Called and I'm just being honest here. However, I think this series is going to develop it's own flavor entirely. Love the Montana backdrop ;D.It was an incredibly vivid world and I can't wait to see what's going to happen next! I'm still in the process of re-reading.

I LOVED Tag! Hope we see more of him too. ;D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Grey Drakkon on July 27, 2008, 09:01:31 am
::chews on keyboard:: Just called my local Borders, and they said it doesn't come in until Tuesday. >;( 
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: nottled on July 27, 2008, 06:18:13 pm
It wasn't as good as Moon Called and I'm just being honest here.

Okay, I feel the need to quote myself! How narcissistic is that???  :D

Anyway, I'm laying in bed and this part of my opinion of Cry Wolf is needling at me. I know, I have no life but I didn't mean it quite the way it sounds. I need to make this more clear.

As Moon Called was our first glimpse into this world, we basically went along with anything that the story threw at us. It was fresh and unknown so everything was new, like a first date. We didn't know anything about this world so we buy everything with panting enthusiasm and glee. Good writing does that to you. ;)

Now, we have been in a 'relationship' with these books for a few years. Instead of this book being like a 'first date' it's more of an 'anniversary with high expectations', based on that marvelous first date. Am I making any sense here?

So I'm jaded because I know this world. My expectations are 'thrill me like you did in Moon Called' but that's not realistic, is it? Everything isn't new and unknown. We know these characters and our own imaginations have developed them into what we think they should be.

I think it demonstrates the stark difference between a brand new series and one that branches off from an existing series. It's an enormous risk for the author. You have to create something entirely new from something beloved by thousands. Messing with that winning formula can be a double edged sword.

That's what I meant. That the transition was jarring by pure circumstances, not substandard work on Patty's part. :) Okay....I'm finished rambling. I really did love it.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Tirya on July 27, 2008, 08:08:58 pm
Just finished it, and thoroughly enjoyed it (though I have to admit I was more enamored with the Bone Crossed excerpt than with Cry Wolf... I feel a lot more "connected" with Mercy than Anna, and the few lines from Stefan had me going "Oh frak..." :D ).

I need to go back and do a re-read, to pick up some of the subtleties I'm sure I missed.  The POV changes from Anna to Charles to Asil etc. were very well done.  I liked Walter's characterization, and his attack of Charles and Anna was really well done.  I was really sad when he died, and I also choked up when Asil let the last little tufts of fur blow away on the breeze.

What I liked - and disliked - the most was probably the insight into Bran and his relationship with Leah.  Liked because it made sense and it also seemed to help explain why Leah seems to dislike so many wolves - she probably realizes that Bran cares for them in a way that he never will for her.  Disliked because even though it's an understandable self-preservation motivation for him, it's still damned cold, and I wish/hope that he'll be able to gain control enough of the Beast that he can let that wall down at some point.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Mominator on July 28, 2008, 03:00:47 pm
My friend Des found it at Rosauers (local grocery chain) last week.  She sneakily bought both copies out and waved them at hungry fans here.  Mean.

OK, she did loan them until other people get theirs from Amazon.  Mine ships today!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 28, 2008, 07:35:21 pm
Well, I finished it about - three this morning?

Quite splendid.  I loved not just information about Bran & Samuel (and Charles, on Bran's side of the family) background, but new information about Charles, his mother, uncle, and his relation with the spirits.  How cool is it that they badger him?  And help him.  That he knows that that vale in the Cabinets has some spirit of its own that's inimical to intruders, but that Walter stayed, and it eventually accepted him. 

I wonder if Walter did see werewolves in Vietnam?  What was that silver etched blade of his meant to fight?  What's become of it since he died?  Does Charles have it?  Tag?  Bran? 

How much are the spirits apt to call Charles & Anna to their needs?  Were they responsible for Anna being able to see and break the spell Mariposa set on her and him? 

What a wonderful insight into the pack standings.  "Submissives are our treasure."  "The Omega has the protective instincts of an Alpha, without the violence."  No wonder Anna could force Leah to explain herself, without even knowing it.  An Omega mated to a strong dominant, drawing on his strength?  Wow.

Is the witch blood why Bran, Samuel, and Asil haven't gone off like Isabelle did?  They are, after all, over 6 times as old as she was.  What will the different type of witch blood in the born werewolf produce, beyond what he's already got? 

Now that he's not being stalked by Mariposa, will Asil leave?  Go back to his previous pack, go lone, start a new pack?

What, beyond getting crazier and learning more dark spells, was Mariposa doing during the last 200 years?  How did she get to Montana?  What other werewolves have suffered for her insanity? 

Will Charles build more onto his house to make room for Anna?  What job will she get?  Now that she's among others as musical as herself, how much will she bloom?  Will her family stick around a little, so we can learn a little more about them and her?

Is that area of the Cabinets now going to be more amiable to humans, or werewolves?

Will Walter's Post Traumatic Stress accidental killing of the postal carrier be marked solved now?  Does he have any family who can be informed that he lived and died a hero, giving up their company to maintain safety for them and their neighbors, and then stopping a danger of almost incalculable evil?

Is there someone who can be trusted to do some tests and start training Anna in the unexpected magical talent she's demonstrated?  Will they get any time for things like that, along with healing, before the next crisis demands their attention?

Oh, lots of lovely questions are bred and hatching here.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: opramum on July 28, 2008, 08:24:44 pm

OK, she did loan them until other people get theirs from Amazon.  Mine ships today!

Pwttth, Momi, quite trying to play the innocent. I know you read it!!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: mystify on July 28, 2008, 09:36:27 pm
LOL - I should be in bed - I have to work in the morning but I just finished the book. I loved it!!! I really wasn't as excited for this book as I have been for the Mercy books and while I did want to read it, I bought it right away for the Bone Crossed exerpt more than anything.
I loved this book for all the good things that have already been stated. It was so nice to get back into a familar world and yet be in a different story. I love the way some of the things were described like when Bran started helping pack Anna's apartment and she thought it was like the president mowing the grass or something. Such great writing.
I wasn't so sure of Anna as a heroine from On the Prowl but now I think she's great. She's so strong and she doesn't even realize it.
I would love to see a Sage and Asil story. There are so many questions now still to be answered and I'm definitely looking forward to more books.
And lastly, did anyone besides me have a craving for jerky while reading this story? :)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on July 29, 2008, 06:04:36 am
Still nothing here. I´m kind of depressed... :'(
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: luvstraberries on July 29, 2008, 07:55:53 am
I called about 5 different B&N and none were available till today, well I was persistent and struck pay dirt and picked up my copy last night at 5:15 p.m and finished reading about 2:20 a.m.  I am happily dragging through the day.


All I can say is WOW!!

 :)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Cerulean on July 29, 2008, 09:34:23 am
I'm headed to Barnes & Noble in about two hours to go pick it up. They'd better have it out on the shelves! Their shipments come in late sometimes on Tuesdays. (crosses fingers)!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 29, 2008, 10:38:48 am
abebooks said that book would be here on the 28th July or before. Still waiting......  :(
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on July 29, 2008, 11:04:15 am
Oh no Temari - I got my copy  last Friday through abebooks- what store did you use?
I ordered through Revolution books they are also known as Langton Info services on amazon. From their site I think they had about 100 copies in stock but this was last week.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Elle on July 29, 2008, 03:20:27 pm
It's been so difficult to stay out of this thread! Got the book this morning and finished it this afternoon. I love Anna and Charles, I think it's a great start to their story, not really the start but the extended start.

Great secondary characters. I was sad about Walter but it seemed fitting.

I love the information that we got about Bran. Loved it...and some of the background info on Sam before he left for Mercy's. And Leah...I enjoyed her reaction when she found out what Anna was and that she couldn't control her.

Thanks for the read Patty!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Tanis143 on July 29, 2008, 05:37:14 pm
I got my ocpy yesterday, read it in full yesterday, want the next Mercy book tomorrow!  :o

Man, the characters were so much more dynamic, that is all I am saying. Well worth its spot next to my Mercy collection on my bookshelf.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Zealith on July 29, 2008, 06:53:28 pm
Just got, and read it, this afternoon. *falls to the ground flailing* Amazing, I want more. I love the background provided as well as getting to know Charles more. I like Anna, but I think I'll like her more in another book or two. I really loved how Samuel and Bran talked about Bran's mother without actually saying exactly what she'd done, or who'd eaten her. When I read that part I perked up and was all happy and curious! I loved it, and with the excert in the back I don't know how I'll servive until BC comes out!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: sapril on July 29, 2008, 06:55:46 pm
Got it today, and read it in spurts at work.  Definitely will have to read again two or three more times to let it settle in.  But loved it, especially the Bran parts.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Temari on July 30, 2008, 12:31:36 am
It's actually here!!! And, unlike my dream last night, it's in English so I can read it!  :D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Snoopy on July 30, 2008, 12:32:51 am
OMG, I'd wake up screaming from a dream like that!!!
And I'm about to scream in envy anyway!!  :)
Hope you enjoy it, Temari.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: rox_squirrel on July 30, 2008, 08:53:36 am
i'm stalking my copy of Cry Wolf through the UPS tracking site that barnes and noble gave me.  MAKE IT GET HERE FASTER!!!! It's been out for delivery since 6 am and still hasn't arrived.   :'(
 ;D

Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: wileyd on July 30, 2008, 10:09:04 am
Got mine, stayed up last night and read it cover to cover!

I really, really enjoyed it. I think I might like this series even better than the Mercy one.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Suzi on July 30, 2008, 10:28:16 am
It's not here  :( 

I'd been planning to buy it online for my electronic reader but it is "not available in your country and has been removed from your shopping list".


AAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!

 :'(
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Elle on July 30, 2008, 10:39:28 am
I totally saw that as well. For me it says available in the US only. I have the hard copy but I was looking at the e-book as well. I was going to check around to see if any other e-sites have it available for download.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Jenn on July 30, 2008, 01:25:12 pm
I really enjoyed this story. Learning more about Bran, Charles and the pack was fantastic. I am looking forward to future stories. Thanks so much for a great read Patty!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: emmad on July 30, 2008, 05:46:49 pm
I just checked at a local store to see if they were getting it in.  Nope so ordered it.  Will take about two weeks apparently.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on July 30, 2008, 05:49:01 pm
Hope it wings it way to you soon :D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: proberts on July 30, 2008, 08:55:12 pm
I have read Cry Wolf from front to back twice and am on time number 3.  I reckon you could say that I think it is a pretty good book.  :)

I wanted to thank Mrs. Briggs from the bottom of my heart for her wonderful books.  I am so looking forward to her other books.  She is a wonderful story teller.  The first book I bought was The Hob's Bargain, so I've been a fan for awhile now. 

I wanted to tell this story on myself.  I refrained from buying the book containing Alpha and Omega thinking that the story would be essentially contained in the Cry Wolf book when it was published.  Oh, but I itched to buy it.  When I began reading Cry Wolf, I realized that it took up where Alpha and Omega ended.  I stopped reading, and made it to the book store - two actually, clear across town - before I found a copy of On the Prowl just before closing.  I then came home and stayed up until almost 1 AM to finish the story.  Bear in mind that I left my husband to put our son to bed, and this was a work night.  :laughs:  How will I ever train my child in moderation with a straight face?   

Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on July 31, 2008, 03:12:45 am
They keep telling me here in germany it is available in august.
I don´t look around here at the moment because i don´t want to
catch i spoiler :) I hope i will get it soon.

I don´t quite understand why the book did not launch
here the same time like in the usa.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: dryad on July 31, 2008, 02:07:39 pm
Hi!  I've just joined the board, but I've been a fan of Ms. Briggs for quite a while.  I first read The Hob's Bargain, and then when I ran across Moon Called, I picked it up because I remembered how much I enjoyed the writing.  And I'm totally hooked.   ;D

So I pre-ordered my copy of Cry Wolf from Amazon.com and it came yesterday.  I called a few friends to gloat a couple of hours later when I was a third of the way through.  Well, now I've finished the book, and am squeeing!

I have a though about Asil and Sage -- and yes, I think it would be cool to see something between them.  Asil's mate bond has been active all this time, since Sarai's death.  Mariposa had usurped it and was using it to hunt him and to try to call him to her; so he wasn't free to mate again.  Since Sarai's wolf/ghost has now been released by the witch's death and he's now free...it may be possible for him to mate again.  Just thought.

Otherwise, I'm pleased to see Anna's arc, regaining strength and confidence.  I'm also happy with how Charles is developing.  He's smiling and playing!  That is SO cool.

And learning more about Bran and his Berserker past gave me chills.  With the timeline and such, I think he *could* be the original Marrok.  Oy.

I'll be reading this again.  AND waiting for the next.  The only problem with getting the books right away is that I now have to wait for a WHOLE YEAR until the next Anna & Charles is ready.  And another six-ish months until Bone Crossed is out.  Whatever will I do?
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: charmed on July 31, 2008, 02:30:59 pm
My copy arrived!!!!!!!!! Now, I will go home, park my butt on the couch, ignore the cat and the laundry, and READ.  :)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on July 31, 2008, 02:37:03 pm
whoo hoo :D

You're gonna love it ;)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: SanLynn on July 31, 2008, 03:20:48 pm
Well I have to say after reading this book I'm.... sort of surprised. Since I first read Moon Called I've wanted to know more about the Montana pack and Bran and Charles. But I expected this book to be about Charles and Anna with Bran, Leah and the Montana pack in the background.

So it was a very pleasant surprise to see Bran featured much more prominently than I was expecting. And to get a bit of back story to boot. The addition of Asil was fantastic and the way Patty showed us Anna's effect on the pack was so well done.

I can't wait to see what happens next in this series. And now I have to go find the thread were we talk about the Bones Crossed excerpt because... EEP!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Snoopy on July 31, 2008, 09:12:14 pm
Woooohoooo!!!! *happy dance*
My copy was sent out yesterday, so it should be here today!! Hopefully they leave it with the neighbours if I'm not home yet!!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on July 31, 2008, 09:14:52 pm
Yay, Snoopy! *furtively dances a few steps behind the beagle*
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Kyra_Athena on August 01, 2008, 05:32:39 am
I just finished Cry Wolf and I really enjoyed the book.  It took me a little bit of time to get into it due to the distractions around here.  When it arrived, I started reading it immediately and finished it a few hours later.   

I have a few questions as to when this book takes place and how it will fit into the Mercy books.  I did comparisons from memory with the Mercy books.   

Some of these points are musings on my part so I'm not expecting answers to any of them, seriously. 

1.  Charles found Anna in the Alpha and Omega novella.  The trouble in Chicago was mentioned in one of the Mercy books, as Leo's pack was the one capturing humans and forcing them to Change for pay from Gerry Wallace.  Charles has appeared solo in the Mercy books, so I assumed they were before meeting Anna.  Considering their bond, Charles would not like leaving Anna behind. 
2.  Anna's arrival in Aspen Creek coincided with Doc Wallace's funeral.  Doc Wallace, the vet, died at the end of Moon Called.
3.  Samuel has been sent to live with Mercy, but he hasn't moved in with her yet.  Samuel moved in with Mercy near the end of Moon Called.   Samuel was seen at the beginning of Moon Called when Mercy arrived in Aspen Creek with an injured Adam.  That leads me to believe the funeral took place prior to his return and move in with her. 
4.  I never thought of the inhabitants of Aspen Creek as being defective or psychotic.  Mercy's foster father was suicidal, but that frequently happens with the wolves when they become too old and unstable.  It was interesting to learn more about the little town and how the wolves intermingle with their mortal families. 

It was good to find out more about Bran and Samuel's origins.  I thought Bran was possibly medieval because he was old when he encountered Charles' mother in North America.  I found it interesting that Bran was so vicious and monstrous that he may have been inspiration for Beowulf.  Bran and Samuel's dislike of magic is also explained.  If Bran was the original from Beowulf, Samuel could be the original Big Bad Wolf from Little Red Riding Hood.

Bran is described as handsome, but more unassuming than anything, not what a Marrok is expected to look like.  Samuel looks more rugged, but resembles Bran.  As Bran's mother had her pet transform them both, it was not at the same time.  So Bran was changed first, Samuel reached adulthood, past the point where Bran was transformed, making him look older?

Was Bran's mother and Samuel's grandmother always evil or did the desire for power corrupt her? I would say that she was not always evil as Bran and Samuel are not evil.  You know the saying, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree". 

Nice touch with having Bran eating his mother, a traditional motif in European folklore and mythology.  There are other stories, but I was thinking of Taliesin and Ceridwen in particular.  Did Bran have magical inclinations through his mother's line or did the consumption of his power-hungry mother give him those talents? Does he have more magical talent than he reveals? Does Samuel have any magical talents?

5. Are wolves more prone to magical influence or is it just Bran, Charles, and Samuel due to their witchy heritage? Samuel was bewitched by Marsilia.  Charles and Bran were influenced by Mariposa. 

That leads to questions about Elizabeth Arkadyevna's line and if they are gray or black witches.  White witches are considered inferior power-wise and Elizabeth is considered rather powerful.  I would assume they are just very opportunistic and capitalistic gray witches, especially as Elizabeth had to leave town when the vampire-sorcerer was alive.


6.  Was European history different in this timeline? In Spain, when the Catholic Kings, Ferdinand and Isabella, came to power the Inquisition started up and Jews and Muslims were cast out or forced to convert.  That was in 1492-ish, not 200 years ago as was mentioned with Asil and Sarai.  Some sort of witch civil war was mentioned.  Asil was/is a Muslim.  Of course, the wolves and witches could have simply concealed themselves and kept themselves far from human affairs. 

7.  The alpha and alpha's mate issues have been touched upon briefly with Bran's thoughts on mating and his relationship with Leah.  I can't say I like Leah as she doesn't like Mercy and tried to do her in on occasion.  I can't say I think much of her relationship, especially as she was specifically chosen because she was "stupid and selfish".  It is interesting to note that she can use Bran's power or at least a little of it.  I'm not sure if I like that or not, considering how "stupid and selfish" she is.  She may be his mate, but she is also the scorned woman, never to be truly loved by Bran and that makes her dangerous.

I assume Mercy will now have some werewolf power to draw upon as Adam's mate.  Will she also get some immortality from it if he is the alpha?

It's nice to note that she is gaining power and allies.  I keep going back to the LKH/Anita Blake disaster so bear with me on this one. 

8.  If Bran's mother was a witch and Charles' grandfather was a medicine man, he has a magical heritage from both sides.  I assume more of Charles' magical potential will be explored.  I believe he received some instruction from his mother's relatives.  He is an immortal being from a vanishing and dying people so I assume he knows about more than just being a werewolf. 

Bone Crossed preview comments

I'm looking forward to hearing more about Mercy's mother and how Mercy's relationship with Adam will progress.  Of course the vamps appear to be out to get her and Stefan, presumably for killing Andre, and the fey still owe her.  Mercy is getting a powerful alliance behind her with the Morrigan, Zee, and Bran behind her. 

Volvos are from Sweden, but I think someone already mentioned that.   

I can't wait to get Bone Crossed, although I feel the suspense is cruel and unusual punishment. 

Just kidding! I'm looking forward to it.

Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Zealith on August 01, 2008, 11:17:11 am
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I assume Mercy will now have some werewolf power to draw upon as Adam's mate.  Will she also get some immortality from it if he is the alpha?

I don't see why she would. We have seen human mates grow old. However, I could see it enhance a trait Mercy may already posses, a longer life span. It does mention that she doesn't quite look her age I believe.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Kyra_Athena on August 01, 2008, 11:37:16 am
Hopefully she will have a longer lifespan as a walker.  If she does age as a human, I believe Adam would be more able to handle this than Samuel who has lost far too many wives to date. 

So little is known or has been revealed about her talents aside from shifting to coyote form, immunity to magic, and being able to see ghosts.  Obviously immortal werewolves have been mated to very mortal humans.  She can get hurt, quite badly so a little werewolf boost there would be helpful. 



Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: danceswithwaves on August 01, 2008, 07:21:31 pm
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1.  Charles found Anna in the Alpha and Omega  novella.  The trouble in Chicago was mentioned in one of the Mercy books, as Leo's pack was the one capturing humans and forcing them to Change for pay from Gerry Wallace.  Charles has appeared solo in the Mercy books, so I assumed they were before meeting Anna.  Considering their bond, Charles would not like leaving Anna behind.
2.  Anna's arrival in Aspen Creek coincided with Doc Wallace's funeral.  Doc Wallace, the vet, died at the end of Moon Called.
3.  Samuel has been sent to live with Mercy, but he hasn't moved in with her yet.  Samuel moved in with Mercy near the end of Moon Called.   Samuel was seen at the beginning of Moon Called when Mercy arrived in Aspen Creek with an injured Adam.  That leads me to believe the funeral took place prior to his return and move in with her.

Doing this from memory, here are the days as I see it:
Day 1: Mercy finds Adam injured and brings him to Aspen Creek.  Talks to Charles during hunt.
Day 2: Mercy leaves Aspen Creek with Adam and Samuel and goes to Warren's house.
Day 3 (Thanksgiving): Adam's pack goes out hunting for Jesse, Adam gets kidnapped, Mercy and Co instigate rescue and Gerry Wallace dies.  A few hours later, Dr Wallace dies.  Charles flies to Chicago and meets Anna.
Day 4: Charles gets shot in front of restaurant, talks to pack in evening and gets shot more, and is bandaged and placed in holding room with Anna.
Day 5: Bran flies in to Chicago, gets Anna packed up, and flies back to Aspen Creek with Anna and Charles.
Day 6: Dr. Wallace's funeral.

After day 3, Moon called skips a few days, so we're not sure what happens between the end of the rescue and Mercy's date with Adam, so Samuel could have disappeared a day or so easily without us knowing.


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5. Are wolves more prone to magical influence or is it just Bran, Charles, and Samuel due to their witchy heritage? Samuel was bewitched by Marsilia.  Charles and Bran were influenced by Mariposa.

The magic Samuel came under I saw as general vampire magic, only Mercy is immune to most of that, which is why only Samuel was affected in the scene -- besides the underlying political reasons.  The reaction he had on coming out from the spell was from being a werewolf.  Charles and Bran were influenced by Mariposa through Asil and his mate-bond to Sarai.  Mariposa was one of the last living (I got the impression that she was the last) witch who knew how to influence werewolves -- there had been others, but they died.  Remember that Anna and Walter weren't influenced because they weren't part of the pack (though Anna was kind of at first -- maybe because she was kind of part of the pack, just not official yet) because Mariposa was using the pack bonds.  Which was why when she gave Anna the order to stay still, right before Anna knocked her out, and Anna remembered that being Omega meant she didn't have to take orders, she was suddenly free.

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6.  Was European history different in this timeline? In Spain, when the Catholic Kings, Ferdinand and Isabella, came to power the Inquisition started up and Jews and Muslims were cast out or forced to convert.  That was in 1492-ish, not 200 years ago as was mentioned with Asil and Sarai.  Some sort of witch civil war was mentioned.  Asil was/is a Muslim.  Of course, the wolves and witches could have simply concealed themselves and kept themselves far from human affairs.

I couldn't find the inquisition mentioned -- do you remember where it was?
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: jenniwee on August 01, 2008, 08:19:19 pm
The Inquisition lasted until Napoleon invaded Spain in the early 19th century, so 200 years ago would have been right on.  In fact, Patty mentions that the Napoleonic invasion is part of what stops the witch wars.  She has her history right on.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Kyra_Athena on August 02, 2008, 06:01:09 am
Spain under Ferdinand and Isabella was very intolerant toward non-Catholics.  Jews and Muslims were forcibly expelled from Spain.  If they chose to stay, they were forced to convert and may have fallen under the suspicion of the Inquisition.  You didn't want to be a suspected witch either.   Many of the ones expelled from Spain resettled in the eastern Mediterranean, such as Turkey and Romania, which may explain why Asil was in that location.   

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?ParagraphID=gti

Asil says that he was a devout Muslim or had been.  Was he hiding his religion as well as being a werewolf? I assume being a werewolf was no better than being a witch as far as risk.  I gathered that the witches and werewolves of Spain knew about each other, as that is how Mariposa came to be in Asil and Sarai's care. 

I thought that perhaps they were in an isolated community, at least that's the way I envisioned it.  Due to not aging, Sarai and Asil probably had to move around every so often anyway. 
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Has on August 02, 2008, 01:37:36 pm
Hey guys - just to let you know- there are a few us in the chat room right now and we are about to discuss the book- would be great to see some of you there :D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: fyreesper on August 03, 2008, 09:53:51 am
darn it, I always seem to miss the chats...
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on August 03, 2008, 11:23:51 am
Fyreesper, you can always arrange one yourself!  Several of the regulars can't be on during the weekend, and you could catch all kinds of unexpected people by declaring a M-F date and showing up.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Suzi on August 03, 2008, 11:34:15 am
 :D :D :D :D

Thanks to a commment by Midangel last night,  I got a copy this morning. Three guesses to what I've been doing today, and the first two don't count.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: e_booklover on August 03, 2008, 04:12:05 pm
Well I missed the chat so I am waay behind the power curve but have to say something anyways  ;).  I could see why this book was difficult to write because we had already gone past these events in Tri-Cities so going back in time and not contradicting or forseeing what was happening must have been really hard.  I know a few times when I was reading I had to remind myself that this happened between the books instead of after the last I had read with Mercy.

I really liked how Patty was able to let us see some of how Bran is able to be the Marrock and that Mercy really only saw mainly one aspect of his personality.  I also enjoyed how Anna and Charles still had to get used to each other despite the wolves having made their decision in Alpha and Omega.  It was also interesting how different Anna's interaction with the Pack vs Mercy's interactions.  Now I can't wait for the next one!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on August 03, 2008, 06:34:21 pm
Now that you mention that, I'm ready to re-read.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: charmed on August 03, 2008, 06:36:52 pm
I have been re-reading this weekend. :D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Snoopy on August 04, 2008, 04:12:27 am
Gerd, after the Review on the Dear Author website
http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/07/21/alpha-and-omega-and-cry-wolf-by-patricia-briggs/
Mrs. Briggs posted a few comments on that subject. See comment # 49.
Very interesting! I think your idea about it is pretty much spot-on...


ETA: Title modified. Elle
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on August 05, 2008, 08:49:55 am

Finally i got it . Loved it.
I am happy  :) going to reread now.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Demi on August 05, 2008, 09:16:01 am

I loved it. It was worth waiting for it.

My english is not good enough for details, but
the praise that had been written so far, is what
i would write if i could :)

Now i have so much more questions, i have more insight
of the personalitys of some people in the books too.
I thought it was a beautiful romance, and anna is a heroine
that can stand beside Mercy on her own. I truly like her a lot.
After reading this my sight towards Leah changed a bit, i understand
her more. Bran is still my hero, i loved to see more man, and less
almighty big Alpha. Charles... well i let´s say he is the one for me.

Now this expert at the end leaves me waiting again, but i know
it will be worth it, as it was everytime before.

Thank you Mrs. Briggs, Bard of Hurog,

for another amazing book of yours.
I am looking happily forward to the next.

greetings

Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: opramum on August 05, 2008, 01:24:14 pm
Gotta reread too.  Just devoured it, late at night, first time!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: bingomzan on August 05, 2008, 07:45:51 pm
The book was so good i finished it in about 5 hours and stayed up until 3 in the morning reading it.

I loved everything about it and especially the facts we find out about bran and how not nice he really is.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: white_unicorn on August 07, 2008, 11:07:57 pm
I couldn't resist anymore, I bought the e-book and read it in two days at work... now I have to wait to re-read it as book....

It was great!!!!!!!!! I loveeeeed it and let's just say that... ah, the characters became alive, I could almost see Anna and Charles (Big fan of Native Americans I was but now... between Adam and Sam I pick Charles....)

And even though I feel sorry for Leah, well she did know she could never be anything more than a substitute for Blue Jay Woman to Bran, I wouldn't compromise, but that's me....

And Sam... It gave me a new perspective in Moon Called and Blood Bound...

I loved the book, when is the next again?  :P
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Zealith on August 09, 2008, 05:20:10 pm
I lent my book to a friend, after having reread it, and now I want it back!!! Wish she'd hurry up with it. *sigh*
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: jenglows on August 10, 2008, 04:10:31 pm

  Just got back from Colorado where I didn't have any internet access for almost 2 weeks!  I've been dying to discuss this book,  I loved it!!   Anna is fabulous and  I really enjoy getting her thoughts and being able to compare to Charles interpretations of the situation.  I think writing from both perspectives is so much more interesting.  It gives the reader a wonderful window into each character.

 Okay,  must go unpack  so I'm just going to lay out a few of my main comments ...

- the flesh & blood pack bond  bit creeped me out! yuck.
- Samuel is my man  ;) and I was thrilled that he was in this novel and I hope that his presence in both series continues ;)
-  getting a glimpse at the history of Bran & Samuel  And Bran & leah was amazing!  It  began to answer some of my most burning questions since reading Moon Called.  Those characters are so interesting to me.
- I love that Anna is getting her confidence back and stood up to Leah the first time she met her
- I can't wait to read more about Sage and the rest of the Marrock's pack!  Loved Tad in Birks and tie-dye! He belongs in Portland ;)
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: tsmith10 on August 13, 2008, 10:26:46 am
Having bought and read Cry Wolf yesterday, I could not wait to say how great I thought it was.  I read the novella associated with it, and eagerly awaited the book following the story to arrive.  I immediately fell in love with Anna all over again within the first chapters of the book.  Before reading the book, I knew some of the reviews had been pretty harsh.  Not having read the Mercy series (though I have all of them in my TBR pile and have given them as gifts), I wondered if the story would be limiting not knowing many of the characters already.  My worries were unnecessary as the book was well-written, describing so much, fitting along nicely with the short story in the series.  For one, I actually enjoyed having the story start off right where the first left off.  I was enthralled from the beginning, wondering and worrying about both Anna and Charles.  I was glad this was done, because I feel so much character development would have been lost by skipping over to when they've had time together after just going through what they've been through, especially on Anna's part (again, I had not seen Charles before the short story, so that may be why I was biased towards Anna).  The opening scene with her and her old pack was full of tension, and I immediately became engaged in the story.  I loved the background stories found throughout the book, the side characters (Asil was awesome, as was Sage, who made me smile each moment she turned up, and Walter), and many other little aspects that made the book wonderful.  I want to say more, but do not want to put up spoilers in a review.  So, I feel like Patricia Briggs did not disappoint, but as always met the high standard I have grown accustomed to after reading her earlier, non-urban fantasy novels.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: mdauben on August 16, 2008, 06:36:17 am
Well, I just finally got around to reading Cry Wolf this week.  Despite the fact that I liked the short story Alpha and Omega, I was a little reluctant to read the novel for a couple reasons.  First, even though I enjoyed reading about the character of Anna in the short story, I was not sure she was someone I could continue to like in an ongoing series.  Where as Mercy from the original series is a strong, independent character, Anna seemed much more of a dependent "victim" in the short story, someone who's story was interesting but who I would have trouble relating to.  Second, I have read more than one "spin off" series like this, that was just never as good as the original series that spawned it.   

So, I have to admit I was setting myself up to be disappointed before I even started Cry Wolf.  ::)

Of course, once I finally did start reading it, to my pleasant supprise I was far from disappointed.  In fact, once I started I found myself unable to put the book down, and read the whole thing in one day!  The slow growth of Anna through the course of the story (from victim of Leo to dependent on Charles to taking her first steps to standing on her own two feet) was facinating , and the story itself exciting and interesting (seeing a bit more about witchcraft and areas of the larger supernatural world that have not been explored yet in the Mercy books , as well as getting to know more about Bran, his family and pack better).   While the book stands nicely on it's own, it still leaves many things open for the future, and I'll be looking forward to more stories of Anna & Charles.

So, in the end I have one more series to add to my "automatically pre-order" list.  Thanks Patricia!   ;D
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: BigMama on August 18, 2008, 10:20:37 am
Good writing will always triumph and Patricia Briggs is now on my must read list. Cry Wolf is the beginning of another series in which I will await each installment with anticipation.  Will we alternate between Mercy and Anna now? I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: BadWolf on November 07, 2009, 08:43:14 am
I haven't posted in aaaaaaaaages, but I'm back and I've finally finally FINALLY gotten round to reading Cry Wolf.

I'm loving it. Love Anna, love Charles.

I'm just at the bit where Anna and Charles meet Walter. I'm really curious about where the story is gonna go, especially the stuff about Asil and his past.

Also I really like Sage. She's kinda like if Kaylee from Firefly was a werewolf.

The only downside is the UK cover. But it's a very small downside. It's a very cool cover, I just don't think it represents the series very well.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Trust_Me on December 01, 2009, 05:35:42 pm
Loved the A&O along with the Mercy Novels, the vampire crazed ended for me a long time ago and these books were ausome. I was first introduced to the novels by my sister, at first glance I'm thinking "Great, another monster novel dedicated to Vamp's." Thank you for proving me wrong and I ow my sister 15$ for being right about liking the story. Next time "Patty" comes to the Columbia Mall for a book signing I'll have to give her a high five.
Title: Re: Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: liz on July 20, 2010, 04:16:34 pm
Hi ! just wanted to add my KUDOS about "Cry Wolf".....read it in 2 1/2 days ! It was a real page turner !
I'll have to control myself from reading "Hunting Ground" till vacation (1st 2 wks in Sept) and after that I'll have to wait till Fall 2011.....:-'
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on November 28, 2016, 05:45:21 pm
I haven't re-read this whole thread to check, but I did a re-read recently and I *FINALLY* thought "Hey, wait a minute. Very dominant Asil/Hussien; Omega Sarai.  Shouldn't there have been a pack living around them, connected by pack bonds? Shouldn't they have reacted to Sarai's being tortured and killed, the way that Isaac the Boston Alpha reacted to Otten's torture and murder?"

Or were the couple living as "lone wolves" not quite in any pack's territory?

Anybody have any thoughts on that?
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Zealith on November 28, 2016, 05:50:20 pm
I was under the impression that the witch wars affected the werewolves a bit too. Maybe they lost their pack?
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on November 28, 2016, 05:58:07 pm
Maybe, but as they say fairly constantly,
1. Werewolves aren't meant to be alone, they're pack creatures,
and
2. Omegas are too valuable to let just...fiddle around with humans & compounding medicines.  There should have been packs courting Sarai & Asil to join them, shouldn't there?
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Zealith on November 28, 2016, 06:48:49 pm
I would think so. Though as dominant as Asil is, the alphas may not have wanted to gain him along with Sarai.
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on November 28, 2016, 06:56:57 pm
True, but wouldn't they want more wolves around them? That was long enough ago that maybe he was willing to be an Alpha again, or maybe he'd have done what he's done in Bran's pack, just skip the politics, unless someone challenges him.

Mostly, I'm wondering how Patty justifies their being on their own, because, Omega.  Also, I want to know how long they were mated, how old was Sarai when she died?
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: Zealith on November 28, 2016, 07:03:32 pm
I can only speculate.

Also, they might have tried to fake it if they were more interested in maintaining privacy.
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: BillG on November 29, 2016, 03:48:25 am
More speculation coming up ... this was the time of the Spanish Inquisition. That could have been a factor.
Title: Re: [A&O #1] Cry Wolf Discussion
Post by: pondhawk on November 29, 2016, 06:16:47 am
Also, population density was much lower. Not as easy to locate or make contact with others if something had happened to the rest of the pack.