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Title: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Mims Brown on March 20, 2008, 07:44:29 am
Those pictures were gergous! Thank you for your deviation from the "professionalism" of keeping a web site.
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Mike Briggs on March 20, 2008, 09:09:27 am
You're welcome.   If I can't be professional, at least someone enjoyed my goofing off!   ;D
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Nifty on March 20, 2008, 09:11:29 am
I enjoyed it, too, Mike!  (And I have to say that I love all the changes you've made to the website in the last year or so.  Looks great, and it's very readable.  And I love that you guys are coming in more frequently with updates of what's going on with Patty and the books.)
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Mike Briggs on March 20, 2008, 09:31:09 am
Thank you Nifty!  Since I can't write books, I might as well put a little work into the website.    :P

Actually, there's another fairly substantial makeover coming in a week or so.  I wasn't entirely happy with the current scheme; I'm a decent programmer but not much of a graphic artist.  I hired a graphic artist to look at the site, and he built a mock-up based on what I'd told him.  Basically, I was trying to get a more organic, less rigid look.  He did everything I asked him to do, but we weren't entirely happy with his concept: /images/adam_mockup.jpg (http://hurog.com/images/adam_mockup.jpg)

So, I've been playing around a little bit, and have verified that I suck at graphic design.  However, we're getting closer to something I can live with.  It will end up looking similar to the current site, but hopefully a little more fluid and open.  This image doesn't have headers or the sub-menu (which is the next big piece I'm working on).  But you can see kind of where I'm going with it here:  /images/new_site.jpg (http://hurog.com/images/new_site.jpg).   I don't like the footer either.   Arrrggghh!  >:(

I'm supposed to be out fencing today, but it's cold and nasty so I'm procrastinating like a lazy bum!

Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Nifty on March 20, 2008, 11:00:28 am
It's all in the eye of the beholder, I guess, 'cause I think what you have AND what you're working on both look great.  (And by the way...  No comment on whether or not you can write books, but I think you WRITE very well.  Your writing has a comfortable "readability" to it that I enjoy.  And I like that you write technically well also.  For me, that's probably part of the readability.  Blame my English-teacher mother.  :P)

Let me ask you this:  Is there a link somewhere here on the message board (that I'm just missing) that takes you directly to the main Hurog site?  I haven't ever found one, and when I want to go to the main site from the forum, I have to go up into the browser's address bar and type "hurog.com".  It'd make it easier if there was a toggle-link, or whatever you programming types would call such animals.  But, then again...maybe I'm just being oblivious and it's here and I just keep missing it.
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Has on March 20, 2008, 11:06:50 am
I love the new website layout- its also much clearer than example that the graphic artist has shown. That looked abit too busy and dark, and I also love the regular updates and little slices of life ;D And I think your writing is great Mike- I especially loved the story when you described how Cry Wolf wouldnt die despite the numerous rewrites :D
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Mike Briggs on March 20, 2008, 11:21:07 am
It's all in the eye of the beholder, I guess, 'cause I think what you have AND what you're working on both look great.  (And by the way...  No comment on whether or not you can write books, but I think you WRITE very well.  Your writing has a comfortable "readability" to it that I enjoy.  And I like that you write technically well also.  For me, that's probably part of the readability.  Blame my English-teacher mother.  :P)

Let me ask you this:  Is there a link somewhere here on the message board (that I'm just missing) that takes you directly to the main Hurog site?  I haven't ever found one, and when I want to go to the main site from the forum, I have to go up into the browser's address bar and type "hurog.com".  It'd make it easier if there was a toggle-link, or whatever you programming types would call such animals.  But, then again...maybe I'm just being oblivious and it's here and I just keep missing it.



Nope, no link directly back, and it's a royal pain.  One of the things on my "to-do" list is to write a custom skin for the forums.  Unfortunately, I've given up even guessing when I might find time to do it.  :-\   Sorry!
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Nifty on March 20, 2008, 11:37:08 am
Oh, no prob.  You've got a lot on your plate, I'm sure!
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Patti L. on March 20, 2008, 12:47:36 pm
Thank you Nifty!  Since I can't write books, I might as well put a little work into the website.    :P

Actually, there's another fairly substantial makeover coming in a week or so.  I wasn't entirely happy with the current scheme; I'm a decent programmer but not much of a graphic artist.  I hired a graphic artist to look at the site, and he built a mock-up based on what I'd told him.  Basically, I was trying to get a more organic, less rigid look.  He did everything I asked him to do, but we weren't entirely happy with his concept: /images/adam_mockup.jpg (http://hurog.com/images/adam_mockup.jpg)
I'm supposed to be out fencing today, but it's cold and nasty so I'm procrastinating like a lazy bum!

Wow!  Swordsmanship in ice!  You're a braver soul than I, Mr. Mike!  Even with doubleknit headgear!
<grin>
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: gryphon340 on March 20, 2008, 02:33:37 pm
Hope it wasn' t Barb wire fencing, that sucks in hot weather, has to 4x wrost in sub zero weather.
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: nottled on March 20, 2008, 02:48:36 pm
Mike, I agree with Nifty that you've got a very nice writing style.

It makes for very comfortable reading and God knows you've done about everything. I giggle to myself everytime someone has a random question like, 'I'd like to farm ostriches on the moon but I'm not quite sure how to go about it.'

Here comes Mike......'Well, I had a brief stint as a lunar ostritch farmer and I can tell you this much......'

You're a well of interesting stuff! You should put it all SOMEWHERE. Whether it's fiction or just a memoir of being the poor spouse of a tempramental scribe.

Or 'SOTS' as I like to call you poor fellas who are married to us creative types.  ;)
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Mike Briggs on March 20, 2008, 04:55:00 pm
Nottled, you give me too much credit.  The problem is that I have gypsy blood, and can't seem to stick with any one thing for very long.   The good news is that I learn new things pretty quickly.  I've long had a rule that when I walk into a job and go a whole day without learning anything new, it's time to move on.   I've managed to earn a decent handful of degrees, and rack up enough credits that I'm close to several more.  I've got certifications in all sorts of weird things that once held my interest, but which I haven't kept on or no longer follow.  I'm the proverbial jack of all trades, and master of none. 

I haven't, for example done any lunar ostrich farming.  But I grew up on a farm (including raising various flavors of poultry), I've fed ostriches, and I used to work at a planetarium.  I also managed to take number of classes in astronomy, but I was focused primarily in astrophysics and cosmology rather than lunar studies.  Sadly, this "scattergun" approach to learning continues across the board (except for history and social sciences, where I am woefully ignorant).

Anyway, thanks for putting up with the crazy man's meanderings.   My wife says I'm most useful as an author's ready reference.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Patti L. on March 20, 2008, 09:01:22 pm
Well, thee & me, Sir.  Between us & Grey Drakkon, I think we keep the place pretty well informed.  And I agree, your writing style is very comfortable.  Considering some of the blunders I've pulled, I ought to have retreated into a hole & pulled it in over myself, but you make me feel as though I'm just plain human, not a doofus.  So if you're not comfortable with the idea of "writing" any more than I'm comfortable with the idea of writing an "epic" I say - okay.  Just write comfortable chats with us, leaving your beautiful bride to win bread with the "writing" she's comfortable with.  We'll treasure you & snicker at the fools who don't get to share your gentle genius.
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Mike Briggs on March 20, 2008, 09:13:25 pm
 :-[  Blushing brightly   

Awww Patti, you're too sweet!

Thanks to everyone for the kind words.  And now I'm tempted to lock this thread before my ego becomes unmanageable!  I'm actually very relieved to hear that folks enjoy what I'm doing on the website.   I spent too long doing scientific / technical writing and I was afraid I wouldn't be able to tone it down and sound friendly and conversational.   Apparently it's working, hooray!  ;D
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Cole on March 20, 2008, 09:54:34 pm
i put up a temp link to the main site in the news section on every piece of news
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Good Mazoku on March 20, 2008, 11:59:48 pm
Mike, you're doing a great job, and you're more than friendly: you managed to save the mazoku's and the bear's rear ends, before the moderators (rightfully) tried to kill us, without so much as batting an eyelid at our shameless hijacking ;D Not to mention that other thing you've done for us ;) So, pretty please, go on chatting and sharing your knowledges with us!! :)
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: nottled on March 21, 2008, 04:52:45 am
Mike I don't think I give you too much credit. I think you are what you are. You just happen to be a very interesting little fecker! ;D Same goes for Patti. On this site, you're both very useful reference points. You both have this fantastic life experience that makes for very enjoyable, informative reading.

Kind of like when you get to flip through an encyclopedia, looking for what interests you instead of some sort of assignment. Yes, I was one of those who read encyclopedias for fun.  :-[

I can totally relate to the gypsy blood. A thirst for knowledge is a weird animal to ride. It leads you into the strangest places! (from poultry to planets)

Even if you didn't write it all down, you've got to wonder why Le Bon Dieu has given you all of these different hats to wear. Even if it is to lend yourself as a walking reference book. ;)

And don't lock the thread! Just sit there and take the compliments! It's your own fault for being so 'neat-o'! ;D



Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Nifty on March 21, 2008, 05:25:16 am
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Sadly, this "scattergun" approach to learning continues across the board

Hey, don't knock yourself.  I think the appropriate term is "Renaissance Man."   ;) 
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Nifty on March 21, 2008, 05:26:00 am
i put up a temp link to the main site in the news section on every piece of news

Sergeant, that's awesome!   Thanks!
Title: Re: Unprofessional Update
Post by: Mike Briggs on March 21, 2008, 06:37:04 am
i put up a temp link to the main site in the news section on every piece of news

Sergeant, that's awesome!   Thanks!


I second that motion Sergeant. Nicely done, Sir!