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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2017, 07:33:09 pm »
Disappointing.

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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2017, 07:46:07 pm »
Yes. 
It was as though the author didn't want to make her characters suffer.
They were also cardboard.  Nice people, apparently, but cardboard.
I don't think there's a way she could have sold those for profit, unless it was "how not to...." lessons.
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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2017, 07:52:49 pm »
Yes. A book were no one suffers is pretty boring, though that makes me sound a bit cruel. But suffering is part of the human condition, anyone who doesn't suffer doesn't seem real.

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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2017, 07:58:54 pm »
There's no point to a piece of fiction without it.
My expectations for the genre involve overcoming more of an impediment to HEA than "he hurt her feelings when she was 10, and now she's not sure he's sincere." 
Or "Her little sister threatened social ostracism for his sister if he didn't marry her," particularly if it's brushed aside in 3 pages. Geeze!
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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #49 on: June 05, 2017, 09:31:00 pm »
Sounds like a new a new author trying out their voice. Not the best read available.

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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2017, 06:21:33 am »
Paint by numbers. Stephen King, in writing about writing, said something to the effect that if your characters aren't alive, the story won't live either. That's not even a good paraphrase, but it gets the drift. The characters have to pull their own weight, and the story flows from that. If you try to make the story do all the work, the whole thing is going to stagger around gasping like William Shatner playing a death scene.

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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2017, 02:04:36 pm »
Nice Essay and some good book picks. :)

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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #53 on: November 10, 2017, 06:44:56 pm »
Jasper Fforde is fabulous. There is one scene where a character is doing anger management therapy with the characters from Wuthering Heights that is worth the price of the whole book.

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Re: Genre Expectations and conventions.
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2018, 04:31:06 am »
Read "The bodies of the girls" in Tor.com's free eBook collection, which was a coincidental fit to my reading Buffy fanfiction at the same time. :)
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