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Title: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: YuleRule on November 02, 2010, 08:30:37 am
I finished reading Wolfsbane about three hours after it came out,since I bought the kindle version. I am highly intrigued by the actual Dreamer, and the fact that the Master Spells were basically destroyed in Steal the Dragon. And was there a hint of Aralorn in Steal the Dragon, when Rialla mentions somebody teaching her the game.



Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Elle on November 03, 2010, 06:08:53 am
What a wonderful read!

]I loved Aralorn's family. Wolf had a fantastic arc and the Wolf/Aralorn relationship development was quite delicious! I'm quite intrigued by the Dreamer as well.

I liked Nevyn's comment about how evil destroyed him but tempered Wolf. The visits to the death goddess' temple were interesting as well.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: YuleRule on November 03, 2010, 06:26:54 am
Yes, it seems that this series needs sequels all over the place.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Elle on November 03, 2010, 06:32:07 am
I know! I was thinking that when I finished the book. No pressure, Patty.  :-whistle

Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Ellyll on November 06, 2010, 08:51:53 am
I'm perfectly willing to pressure her.  If she's going to taunt us with that last bit about the Dreamer and its plans, then she should expect to be pressured.  LOL LOL LOL >D
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Janilee on November 06, 2010, 09:17:42 am
Wolfsbane does seem to have set us up for future stories. I like how Masques and Wolfsbane filled out the Sianim worldview very well. There is also a lovely argument about the freedom of knowldge running through Wolfsbane. Wolf is firmly of the opinion that knowledge of bad things should be suppressed. His experience has taught him if you know something bad you will use it for bad purposes. He has no problem destroying books of black magic. Sham in When Demond Walk is in desperate need of this sort of information to rid the world of "evil." She searches libraries for this destroyed knowledge. It is as if there is an argument running through the series. Now this could all be in my head and someone else could have a very different interpretation.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: mimi on November 06, 2010, 12:32:02 pm
I agree with Ellyll, that last little bit at the end does leave us hanging just a bit; but does fantasy need to have a nice, cut and dry ending?  I think Patti just wanted to give us something to think about, and remind us that all will never be perfect in any world, even one that's been imagined.  Kind of like "realistic fantasy," art imitating life, maybe?  Gosh, why am I so philosophical on a Saturday afternoon?! :-whistle

On the other hand, maybe she wanted to leave herself an opening for another book? 

In any event, please do more Mercy and A&O first!!!!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Zealith on November 06, 2010, 01:02:30 pm
I love the way she developed Wolf and Aralorn's relationship. The scene in the temple was especially good.  :-LOVE.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: ArtAngel on November 06, 2010, 02:52:27 pm
All the black bars are killing ER and I...  :-'
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Patti L. on November 06, 2010, 03:06:50 pm
So what are you doing in the chat?
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: ArtAngel on November 06, 2010, 03:09:11 pm
Isn't the chat about Masques?
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Patti L. on November 06, 2010, 03:10:46 pm
Oh, duh... they're sort of intertwined in my mind.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: kissaD on November 12, 2010, 11:30:19 am
Hi, I'm reading Wolfsbane the second time and would aks a question, but it contains spoilers. How do I make those black bars? I'm new to this forum thoug I visited it frequently. Please help!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Patti L. on November 12, 2010, 12:30:24 pm
You have three choices, KissaD.  There are instructions on using the spoiler bars posted several places, and you can check those, if I'm not clear here. (choice 1)
You can manually type them in, like this (without the *) [*spoiler]what you want to hide[*/spoiler] (choice 2)
You can get up the full fledged "reply box" and click the two buttons that say "spoilers" across the width of both, and type between the ] and the [ on them.  (choice 3)  Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: kissaD on November 13, 2010, 10:09:59 am
Thanks Patty, I was looking in the FAQs and have found in the meanwhile how to make the spoiler bars
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: kissaD on November 13, 2010, 10:18:57 am
The original question was: It seems to me that Kisrah is telling the story about how Geoffrey died two different ways. The first time he tells Aralorn and Wolf Geoffrey came to him and said he was left defensless in the castle full of Uriah. The second time Kisrah tells to Aralorn, Wolf, Gerem and Nevyn that Geoffrey said Cain killed him. So I am a little confused
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Zealith on November 13, 2010, 11:24:40 am
Ah, but wouldn't he consiter having his magic taken away by Cain and then being left defenseless as a meathod of murder?
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: kissaD on November 13, 2010, 11:34:43 am
Yes sure, but isn't it a bit suspicious?
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: dreaminkitten on November 18, 2010, 08:48:57 pm
I would love to see another book for this series. I love the characters and how well they mesh together!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Elle on November 19, 2010, 05:55:55 am
I was watching Fringe yesterday and one of the characters was wearing a silver mask, it was very disconcerting.  Made me think of Wolf.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: ArtAngel on November 19, 2010, 12:15:20 pm
Patty has definitely left Sianim open for more books!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: horses_r_us on November 23, 2010, 12:58:46 pm
I hope to see a sequel to Wolfsbane, I like the characters and storyline quite a bit. It is a different style from the Mercy series, but I really like it. Masques took a little while to get used to, but I found it good as well.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Kyria on November 24, 2010, 08:40:45 pm
I finally got to read Wolfsbane! 

I still have most of a Steal the Dragon set of molds sitting under my TV, if I ever find myself in possession of a bit of free time for some Sianim fun... Anyways, I love Wolf and Aralorn, and their whole world, actually. 

Funny thing... when I was about halfway through the book, I realized that Wolf's real name is the same as the MMC of my nano book... also a wolf shapeshifter.  I do my best not to name characters the same as primary characters from books I like, particularly since I JUST read Masques before I started planning for nano, so I feel like a total 'tard for missing this one.  But I guess since Wolf doesn't usually go by Cain, it's excusable...  9)
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on December 02, 2010, 06:53:59 pm
     Art left on a two week vacation the day " Wolfsbane" arrived in the mail and she had to proof read it before me to make sure I could read it , which I can and I love it. Well anyway I call her up to tell her I was done the prydain series and she said  "Read Wolfsbane it is really good."
     And I asked her why she is not reading it first and she answered "I bought it over here because I couldn't wait two weeks."
     I fell in love with Wolf. And Aralorn's brother . I cannot remember his name but he was not the one in the spell mess but the one with the gorgeous eyes and his name starts with a C.
     I almost cried when Nevyn sacrifices himself for her father.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: CarolKat on December 02, 2010, 07:21:32 pm
That would be Correy! So sweet and So in love with the priestess. Nevyn had no choice, and I don't think he could have lived with himself if he didn't
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on December 02, 2010, 07:33:16 pm
     Yeah , Correy ! His eyes caught me first !!!
     That is true w/ Nevyn but it still saddened me.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: CarolKat on December 02, 2010, 07:34:48 pm
I feel bad for Aralorn's sister, she has to deal with all the aftermath.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Janilee on December 02, 2010, 07:36:25 pm
 She will, but she'll have a hero husband (if dead) rather than a rat. She'll also have the support of a large loving family.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on December 02, 2010, 07:43:08 pm
     I  feel sorry for the boy with no father .
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: CarolKat on December 02, 2010, 07:46:32 pm
You have confused me ER Which Boy? I don't know that we have the sex of the unborn child.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on December 02, 2010, 07:56:06 pm
     Oooops , my bad. Maybe I am just wanting to have another book and find out what it is.  :P
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: CarolKat on December 02, 2010, 08:00:48 pm
Yes it is wide open for another book!  :D
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on December 02, 2010, 08:06:03 pm
     Cross your fingers and pray that there is !!!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: ArtAngel on December 04, 2010, 12:51:51 am
*sends idea vibes in Patty's direction and contract vibes in the publishers' direction*
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: CarolKat on December 04, 2010, 07:52:50 am
I was just wondering What wolf will think about Aralorn spying now that they are alive and married...
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Ellyll on December 05, 2010, 07:51:30 am
Why?  He never had a problem with it before.  ???
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: CarolKat on December 05, 2010, 07:53:15 am
They weren't married before either.  That can change a man you know.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Ellyll on December 05, 2010, 07:57:51 am
Did you ever hear that old adage: A man marries a woman thinking she won't change, and she does.  A woman marries a man thinking he will change, and he doesn't.  LOL  Seriously, though, I don't think marriage will change Wolf that much.  He's had a long time to know who Aralorn is, and he knows why she left home.  He's not about to try to turn her into exactly the sort of thing that drove her away from home in the first place, is he?
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: CarolKat on December 05, 2010, 08:02:12 am
I don't so much think he'd want her to become what she ran from as try to keep her safe now that they are married. I have a feeling more than a few people would try to get her to get to him, just like Nevyn did.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Ellyll on December 05, 2010, 08:53:04 am
But that's what I mean.  Wrapping Aralorn in a protective bubble would be the quickest way to drive her away.  He knows that.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Mike Briggs on December 05, 2010, 11:47:29 pm
Most of Patty's books seem to deal with the theme of independence, the right to choose one's own path.  When Masques was first published, Patty got seized upon by some hyper-feminist bloggers as a champion of sorts.  Of course, when I told her about it she was barefoot, pregnant and cooking dinner.  We found it hilarious.   LOL

However, we have seen marriages, good marriages, fail when one party becomes too controlling.  Sometimes it's fear, sometimes jealousy, sometimes just carelessness.   I learned very early in our relationship that she's very good about listening to requests, but doesn't take orders.  In fact, if I ordered her to keep breathing she'd probably hold her breath 'till she turned blue out of spite.  :-whistle

 I sometimes wonder why independence is such a recurrent theme for Patty.  I may be a little alpha, but I try not to be a controlling pinhead! 
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: ArtAngel on December 05, 2010, 11:51:51 pm
Maybe she likes bragging?  :-whistle  ;)

All of her female leads are strong women and it takes a strong man to be her equal... I love how all her couples interact!

My favorite part, or one of them  :P , was when she tried to trick him with the blood bond and he knew about it but didn't tell her... that had me laughing so hard!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on December 12, 2010, 05:33:27 pm
 LOL That was funny !!
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Sylverkitti on March 01, 2011, 08:35:01 pm
I am a huge reader of fantasy, or fantasy/romance, and I have my favorite books/series/characters. But I tell you I am close to tears after finishing Wolfsbane because it ended much much too soon. Its just not enough of Aralorn and Wolf. I would have loved to read what they did/thought/talked about in all those large gaps of time. I would die to read what Aralorn did the 1st time she witnessed Wolf change.....and on and on. I hope Patti can see it in her heart to perhaps write 5-15 more books on these new favorites of mine. I bought both books in E-book form, and will also be buying the shelf version, so I may have them within grasp a couple different ways  :-'  Thank You Patricia Briggs for 2 more characters to live in my thoughts/dreams. When I get those shelf versions they will grace the top left hand side...exactly where I now have my C.L Wilson Novels.....sorry Rain & Ellie....please make room for Wolf & Aralorn and learn to deal with it.  8)
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on March 02, 2011, 11:20:10 am
More books of Cain & Aralorn would rock!  :D
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: RandomRedSquirrel on June 16, 2011, 09:32:19 pm
I love Aralorn and Wolf they are my second favorite couple after Charles and Anna. Though im super excited for the new Alpha and Omega novel coming out soon *dances around* I am willing to wait as long as it takes for them to get another book... even if it is as long as it was for the rewrite.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: Eccentric_Rose on June 19, 2011, 01:58:53 pm
I am willing too. Just as I get more of them at some point!  LOL
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion ******Spoilers*********
Post by: IrishRiverGirl on March 23, 2012, 09:16:32 am
SPOILERS

Quick questions:

In Wolfsbane does Geofrey Ae Magi start the plan - by dream walking before being consumed by Uriah. Could he dream walk once his magic was gone? OR was it all Nevyn's alter ego?

When Aralorn (mouse) watches Kisrah and the dream walker that looked like Ae Magi - that was Nevyn's alter ego, too?

I'm new to Hurog- sorry if this is answered elsewhere.
Title: Re: Discussion of Wolfsbane **SPOILERS**
Post by: BillG on March 24, 2012, 03:03:56 am
I agree with Ellyll, that last little bit at the end does leave us hanging just a bit; but does fantasy need to have a nice, cut and dry ending?  I think Patti just wanted to give us something to think about, and remind us that all will never be perfect in any world, even one that's been imagined.  Kind of like "realistic fantasy," art imitating life, maybe?  Gosh, why am I so philosophical on a Saturday afternoon?! :-whistle

On the other hand, maybe she wanted to leave herself an opening for another book? 

In any event, please do more Mercy and A&O first!!!!
More books, yes! bOuNcY bOuNcY
Maybe the Dreamer's plans are to usher in a sequel. On the other hand, the advice to have one's characters act as if they were doing something before the story started and will continue after the end was ancient when the Bard of Avon wrote "When shall we three meet again?"
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on March 24, 2012, 09:00:58 am
Patty said in one of the recent rash of interviews that while she will write more stories in the Sianam universe, that's all they will be; stories.  She sees some glaring flaws in the universe structure now that make her cringe, so she doesn't feel she can stand to write another full book in it.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: BillG on March 25, 2012, 01:55:02 am
We will gladly accept what ever crumbs are thrown our way. Arrgghhh.
(Couldn't help the last, I was just at the new grammar gripes thread.)
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: Patti L. on March 25, 2012, 08:55:31 am
:D  We will gladly accept whatever the author throws out to us.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: Kyria on March 25, 2012, 01:53:18 pm
What if she decides to throw hand grenades?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: Zealith on March 25, 2012, 04:13:44 pm
Are these grenades spoiler grenades?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: Kyria on March 25, 2012, 04:21:12 pm
No, they're the regular old blow-your-arm off grenades. 
I don't anticipate any of them, but I feel like we may be a little bit... premature... in saying that we will accept anything that Patty throws our way.

LOL

It really is too bad that Patty doesn't think she'll do another Sianim novel; I very much enjoy this world. 
Title: Re: Wolfsbane Discussion
Post by: Zealith on March 25, 2012, 04:29:52 pm
Me too. I look forward to any short stories or novellas.