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Title: Andre Norton
Post by: weyrfolk on July 29, 2007, 10:45:14 am
She has written all inds of great adventure Science Fiction involving people and animals(including coyotes).  These types of books have always been my favorites.  These bonds between people and other creatures just as intelligent.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Elle on August 01, 2007, 01:22:42 pm
weyrfolk, can you recommend any of your favorites? It's been years since I've read any Norton. I did pick up "Three Hands for Scorpio" just a few months ago but I haven't read it yet.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: weyrfolk on August 01, 2007, 01:34:50 pm
It has been awhile since I have read some of her books, but she is good and alot of them deal with people and animals that are linked either telepathically or through mutual respect.  The Beast Master series, Star Man's Son, Time Traders series, Foreruner series, Crosstime, Witchworld series.  She wrote for over 50 years and passed away in 2005 at the age of 93.  She wrote under the name of Andre because when she started, women weren't known in the Sci-Fi field.  They are not like the newer books, but they are good on their own. 
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Elle on August 01, 2007, 01:50:35 pm
I'll head over to the library and pick up a couple. Always looking for a good book and I have enjoyed her works before, but it's been so long since I've picked up one it's hard to remember what they're like.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: weyrfolk on August 01, 2007, 02:46:55 pm
Let me know which ones you liked..I really enjoyed the Beast Master series and the Time Traders nd Witchworld.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Grey Drakkon on August 01, 2007, 04:37:03 pm
A stand-alone book of hers I have is Mirror of Destiny, its a quick easy read, which some of her stuff isn't.  I rather enjoyed it, and I probably spent more time daydreaming about different things in it than actually reading.  Its a good book for starting daydreams. ;)

   Oh, totally forgot about one I really liked, "The Key of the Keplian", which is in the witch world series somewhere.  I really really liked this one...Sentient horses! :D
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Zealith on August 03, 2007, 12:48:50 pm
I really liked that one too, as well as the Beast Masters and The Mark of the Cat. The last one was the one that started me on her.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on August 18, 2007, 07:16:46 pm
Mildly odd adendum on the Keplian book (books?  I keep thinking there's a 2nd.):  There's a Comanche character in the book, & some of the things referred to on the culture is identical with what's in a set of schlocky westerns that I'm absurdly addicted to.  I wonder if the co-author who probably put it in there is too?

I did always like the Gryphon books that one seems to link to as well, which in turn linked to 'Year of the Unicorn.'

I'll bet you guys already knew too, that Andre wrote at least 1 title for every letter of the alphabet, too.  ;)
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Jazzlet on August 19, 2007, 02:34:27 pm
Lyn McConchie co-wrote 'Key of the Keplian', and several others set at least partially in Karsten after the Horning. She may have read the series you refer to Patti L, but she lives in New Zealand (or is it Australia? certainly downunder)
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: weyrfolk on August 19, 2007, 07:48:31 pm
No, I didn't know that she had done that with the alphabet.  I know that she studied archeology and that is why it is used in so many of her books. 
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on August 19, 2007, 10:27:53 pm
No, I didn't know that she had done that with the alphabet.  I know that she studied archeology and that is why it is used in so many of her books. 
I didn't know about the archeology!  So we each learned something today, yay ;D

One of the guys I used to learn fencing from once said that all our generation was educated for was 'trivial persuit'.  Sometimes I agree with him, my head's full of trivia instead of college classes.

I really like the CatFantastic collections she edited, too.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: weyrfolk on August 29, 2007, 11:28:57 am
I'm re-reading her Beast Master series because I just bought Beast Masters Ark and Beast Masters Quest.  My brain if full of trivial stuff too.  ;D My mom is always saying how smart I am(you know that thing that moms say to their children ;)) and I tell her that the information I know is of no use accept in conversations ;)
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on August 29, 2007, 07:32:48 pm
Yeah, many of them mean well, but it can backfire.  I can't take compliments to this day, I just don't believe them 90+% of the time.

Oh, & speaking of animal oriented Andre Norton, I still have a copy, over 30 years old, of Catseye.  That's a great animal-human team story, too.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: weyrfolk on August 30, 2007, 07:54:50 am
I think????  I read that one years ago, so obviously this means I'll read it again when I find it ;)  Star Man's son was also good.  Man and cat team as well :D
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Jazzlet on August 30, 2007, 10:26:54 am
Yeah, many of them mean well, but it can backfire.  I can't take compliments to this day, I just don't believe them 90+% of the time.

Oh, & speaking of animal oriented Andre Norton, I still have a copy, over 30 years old, of Catseye.  That's a great animal-human team story, too.

Me too, it was one of the books that really got me into Sci-Fi :)
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on August 31, 2007, 09:00:16 pm
We had quite a range of cheap paperbacks, mostly fiction, around the house when I was a kid.  We learned to love real stories, instead of 'See Spot run' from Andre Norton, Louis L'Amour, Doc Savage books by the house name of Kenneth Robeson, Shell Scott humorous mysteries by Richard Prather (oh, I can still remember his mourning the ruin of his beautiful new 'eye-of-a-drunken-dragon' suit.  ;D), Mickey Spillane, Leslie Charteris' Saint, and others that were nowhere near 'age appropriate'.  I can even remember reading the first of the 'The Cat Who' mysteries when $150.00 a month was a reasonable rent, & $900.00 for a big roll-top oak desk of antique vintage was teetering between reasonable and shockingly lavish.  And Tarzan was there, competing with the Johnny Weismuller films.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: ArtAngel on April 09, 2009, 10:51:43 pm
I just finished Dragon Mage written by Andre Norton and Jean Rabe. Jean compiled and finished it after Ms Norton passed away. It is pretty interesting and has me looking up the older Magic books. Thank goodness for libraries! The shipping is horrendous on ebay lately.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on April 09, 2009, 10:58:40 pm
Do me a favor, if you would.  After reading some of the Norton fantasy, especially anything "Witch World", read my challenge story "Trek; Brycht's Tale", and tell me if you think I've captured any of her flavor there.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: ArtAngel on April 09, 2009, 11:03:21 pm
K. It may be awhile before I get to witch world though. I'll check when I do. Which challenge was that?
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on April 10, 2009, 07:30:19 am
Second, Wilderness.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Jazzlet on April 15, 2009, 01:20:50 pm
I have just read your tale and think you have indeed achieved aomething of the feel of the Witch World. My main reservation being the lack of a king of any sort in that world, which is not about feel as such ;D
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on April 15, 2009, 08:31:50 pm
Oh, thank you, Jazzlet!  It's so nice to see you back, you were gone too long.  I still love some of those Andre Nortons to re-read.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Jazzlet on April 16, 2009, 08:18:14 am
So do I (love to re-read my Nortons) but at the moment mine are all packed away so we can paint the house before putting it on the market. Of course if we can't find somewhere to buy all of this may be pointless ::), yes I'm still in trying to move hell ...
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: wizardbear on March 30, 2011, 05:19:47 pm
Favs include: Star Gate, Operation Time Search, Breed to Come (cat people!), Wraiths of Time, Brother to Shadows, and almost everything else she ever wrote. I rate her higher than Heinlein, for the following reasons:
1. She wrote more books, and more consistently maintained her quality over time.
2. She wrote a better balance of books between SF and F, creating many notable works in both genres.
3. She collaborated and co-authored with a wide range of other writers, some doing very well on their own, and others receiving a "hand up", a "passing of the torch" if you will.

Her co-authors and collaborators include:
Lyn McConchie - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyn_McConchie
Sasha Miller - http://sashamiller.com/
Rosemary Edghill - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Edghill
Martin H. Greenberg - as co-editor of the Catfantastic series - http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?9043
Susan Shwartz - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Shwartz
Mercedes Lackey - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Lackey
Jean Rabe - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Rabe
Robert Adams - as co-editor of the Magic_in_Ithkar series - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_in_Ithkar
P. M. Griffin - http://www.pmgriffin.com/
Sherwood Smith - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherwood_Smith
Dorothy Madlee - http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n81-37205
Marion Zimmer Bradley - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley
Julian May - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_May
 Elisabeth Waters - not as a co-author or collaborator, but as the co-author with Marion Zimmer Bradley of Lady of the Trillium, a book in the series Trillium which Andre Norton began together with co-authors Marion Zimmer Bradley & Julian May but did not finish.
A. C. Crispin - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._C._Crispin
Mary H. Schaub - http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3738
Patricia Mathews - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Matthews

so as you can see, reading Andre Norton can lead you in many interesting directions.

Some of Andre Norton's works are available for free download here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/n#a7021

And here:

http://www.webscription.net/c-1-free-library.aspx?SectionFilterID=81

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?Andre_Norton

Something of possible interest to cat loving (or cat owned) Hurogs, a list of Andre Norton's works with cats appearing in them:

The Beast Master
Lord of Thunder
Beast Master's Ark
Beast Master's Circus
Catseye
Gate of the Cat
The Mark of the Cat
Fur Magic
Octagon Magic with Sabrina, the black cat
Star Ka'at
Star Ka'at World
Star Ka'at and the Plant People
Star Ka'at and the Winged Warriors
The Zero Stone - Eet is a telepathic Alien cat, constant companion of Murdoc Jern
Genetically ehanced, humanoid cats in A Breed to Come
Lura the cat in Daybreak:2250 A.D. (aka Star Man's Son)
Also, in Sci-Fi anthologies compiled by Andre Norton
Noble Warrior - CATFANTASTIC
Hob's Pot - CATFANTASTIC II
Noble Warrior Meets With a Ghost - CATFANTASTIC III
Noble Warrior, Teller of Fortunes - CATFANTASTIC IV
Noble Warrior and the Gentleman - CATFANTASTIC V
Three-Inch Trouble - A CONSTELLATION OF CATS




Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on June 23, 2011, 08:07:23 am
After re-reading "Catseye", I had a "D'oh!" moment; Troy & the 5 S-named creatures might have been the inception of the "Beastmasters" corps.   If, of course, they took place in the same fictional universe...
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Zealith on June 23, 2011, 07:32:32 pm
Hm, I don't believe I've read that one. I'll have to look for it next time I'm at the library.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Jazzlet on July 01, 2011, 08:03:37 am
It was the first of hers that I read :-LOVE, and when I later read the Beastmaster series I did think they were in the same universe :)
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on March 18, 2015, 09:25:14 am
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/sci-fi-fantasy/more-than-anything-she-loved-reading-the-legacy-of-andre-norton/

I recently picked up 2nd hand copies of "Beastmaster" and her sequel "Lord of Thunder" before the co-written "Beast Master's Circus" and... I've forgotten the title, she co-wrote a 4th one with the same author who did Circus with her, I believe.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on June 02, 2016, 09:23:50 pm
https://veronicascott.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/a-fond-look-back-at-andre-nortons-witch-world/
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Janilee on June 03, 2016, 12:37:46 am
I believe I read everything of hers except the witch world series. :-\
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: BillG on June 03, 2016, 02:13:32 am
She was one of the first SF/F authors I found in my High School library.
I had no idea at the time that a lady was 'Andre'; I can't believe I would have cared.
For me, it's always been the way the author puts the words together and drags me in, not inconsequential details about who/what they are.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: pondhawk on June 03, 2016, 07:45:45 am
I read several of hers, including the first WITCHWORLD I believe, but it's been way too long. I feel a trip to the secondhand store coming on.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on June 03, 2016, 08:03:14 am
Check the Gutenberg database, see if any of them are available there electronically.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Zealith on June 03, 2016, 02:09:37 pm
That's a good idea.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on February 18, 2019, 10:56:34 am
https://theportalist.com/andre-norton?src=port-nl&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Portalist%20Weekly%20Monday%20Newsletter%202019-02-18&utm_term=The%20Alt

I didn't remember she had the High Hallack resource center in Murfreesboro TN, nor know that she was interred there.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: pondhawk on February 19, 2019, 07:25:22 am
Very cool.
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: Patti L. on April 08, 2019, 08:30:28 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/04/08/quietly-subversive70s-fantasy-andre-nortons-red-hart-magic/
Title: Re: Andre Norton
Post by: pondhawk on April 09, 2019, 08:30:05 am
I'd only read Lavender Green Magic of the ones in that series. Having read all the review links, I will have to look up the others. I confess to having the same reaction to the dialect in LGM, only it never occurred to me that it might be a device to indicate the foreignness of the local languages.