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Title: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: weyrfolk on July 29, 2007, 10:41:57 am
When I first moved to the Tr-Cities in 1977, I discovered Anne McCaffery and my life got more interesting.  I felt all alone just moving here and she gave me a book about dragons who would remain your best friend forever.  I felt less lonely after that...they have been my best friends since then. ;D


EDIT: corrected spelling of author's name.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Spryte on July 29, 2007, 10:47:06 am
I haven't actually read any of Anne's Dragon books but I have read Crystal singer, and I loved it... I know she does the Dragons of Pern What's the first book I should go get?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on July 29, 2007, 10:51:50 am
Dragonflight is the very first one.  Then Dragonquest and the White Dragon.  Then you have the Harper series which are very important to read after Dragonquest.  Dragonsong, Dragonsinger...the books will list them in order.. ;)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on July 29, 2007, 10:53:09 am
I also love the Crystal Singer series.  Her other books are good too.  My favorites are the Dragonrider books.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on July 29, 2007, 10:59:32 am
i just reread the first three flight, quest, and white

i missed ALOT the first time through

they are very good
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on July 29, 2007, 11:04:02 am
I think they get better the more you read them.  Cole, read the Harper series next.  Then continue on from there in the order in which they were written.  They jumpt bakc and forth in the planets timeline.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on July 29, 2007, 11:05:50 am
ive read all the pern books but white is my favorite
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on July 29, 2007, 11:09:52 am
Have you read the Crystal Singer series?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on July 29, 2007, 11:14:10 am
no (p.s. it is weyrfolk not weyerfolk )
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on July 29, 2007, 11:20:48 am
That is what happens when you live in the desert too long. ;D  Thanks!
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on July 29, 2007, 11:57:56 am
My favorites in the DRoP series is the first one, and really, all the ones that take place before AVIS. I really like her Talent series too... though the titles escape me at the moment.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Spryte on July 29, 2007, 12:14:32 pm
Thanks.... next time I drop by B&N I'll grab a few. and I have only read one of the crystal singer books.... I didn't even know there were others (that's what you get for depending on school libraries) Ick I feel really, unknowing on this subject :'(. OK i just ran and got out Crystal Singer, so now I know what the other book is... Thanks again!
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Grey Drakkon on July 29, 2007, 02:08:37 pm
I've read nearly all of her dragon books, as well as some of her futuristic space books...And although I love dragons, and loved the mini dragons in her books, I ...LOATHE her female characters.  They wind up being total bitches and/or completely dependent on males for their happiness.  I swear, there isn't a single main female characters that I haven't wanted to slap silly.  Her books have interesting ideas, but I cant' bring myself to read them again.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on July 29, 2007, 03:31:46 pm
a i liked Sharra  there was no problem with her it was her brother that was a pain
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on July 29, 2007, 07:17:36 pm
For the first two Harper Halls Mellony (Or what ever her name is) was all right.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on July 29, 2007, 07:28:11 pm
its menolly
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on July 29, 2007, 07:33:13 pm
Well, at least I got all the letters right, if not in the right places. ^^;
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on July 29, 2007, 07:34:57 pm
yeah true
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: bingomzan on August 05, 2007, 12:53:19 pm
My favorite character is menolly, she is a very gifted person.

I also like, that one of the females in, i think, benden weyr, was bitchy because she was existing in two places at the same time.

i forgot what book that was from though.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on August 05, 2007, 06:17:20 pm
I couldn't stand her. (Can't remember the name either)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on August 05, 2007, 06:31:36 pm
Lessa is her name, and Brekke and Sharra were the best two female characters by far. F'nor and Jaxom are the best male characters.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Iris101 on August 14, 2007, 01:30:17 pm
After the first 2, I think they kinda went downhill...
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on August 14, 2007, 05:03:56 pm
I like the ones that take place before AVIS, except the second one.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on August 15, 2007, 10:24:50 pm
Yes, several of the books made me cry. :'( :'(  But I just love 'em.  I think it's just the idea that your never alone and your dragon is always there for you.   :) 
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on August 16, 2007, 02:09:43 pm
That's one of the reasons Pern is my favorite world to rp in.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on August 18, 2007, 07:24:57 pm
Wasn't it Ramoth's first queen daughter's rider who was the wierdo when she was 10 years back at Southern? Rather than Lessa?  And that broad was selfish when she wasn't time traveling, or Brekke wouldn't have lost her queen.

I always wanted to Impress a dragon too, I had daydreams about going to Fantasy Island & Impressing there...

Made me glad to see Companions over in Valdemar with something of the same quality, although more human style intelligence, & then the Treecats in the Honor Harrington universe.
Heh.  There's a conversation thread over at Baen's bar Honorverse site about treecat adoptions, I got into it hoping it was about getting virtually adopted. 

Dragons yesterday, dragons tomorrow, but no dragons today, I guess. :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Collaroy on August 22, 2007, 05:07:29 am
I only recently read "Dragonsong" and my only complaint is that it only has 200 pages- I wanted to continue reading forever. It's probably not the right order, but I have the Harper Hall series on my "to read in the near future" list (Amazon loves me) and will look into the Dragonriders after that.

Don't you love it if you discover a whole new fantasy world with lots of promising books ahead of you? ;D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on August 22, 2007, 07:22:03 am
Yes!  Oh, Collaroy, you & I have a lot in common.  Welcome, friend.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on August 22, 2007, 09:54:14 am
Collaroy, read Dragonflight next before the other Harper books.  Then read Dragonquest, finish the Harper series, then read The White Dragon. ;D 
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on August 22, 2007, 11:52:06 am
I started with the Harper series too.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on August 22, 2007, 03:43:00 pm
Groan.  You people are making me feel so old.  I may have first gotten hold of Dragonflight when it had barely made it into the category of used paperback.  I can remember how wicked I felt when I spent WAY too much of my budget on White Dragon when it came out in HC.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on August 22, 2007, 07:10:57 pm
You and me both Patti!! ;D  I read Dragonflight in 1977......been reading them ever since. 
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Elle on August 22, 2007, 07:24:29 pm
The White Dragon is definitely my favorite of the Pern series. I adore the Crystal Singer books...but it's been years since I've read them. The WD is the only McCaffery book that I've kept over the years...it's a good re-read. Wait...that's lie...I still have Restoree as well. I love that one.

I remember a few years back I attended DragonCon in Atlanta and Anne was one of the guests. I never did go and see a panel unfortunately it all clashed with my Browncoat shindigging. :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on August 22, 2007, 09:14:06 pm
I'm not sure I even wanna know about the Brownshirt thing, Elle.

I was rooting around at the Baen forum, & there was some stuff about how grueling book tours are.  Have you seen McCaffrey's fictional account of an author on such a tour, stuck by a combination of snowstorm & murder investigation?  It's called 'A Stitch in Snow', & if you can find it it'll be under either mystery or romance, but it sure shows some of the hazards of the life. 
Gives you more respect for what our Hostess goes through.

It's part of why I always try to bring some kind of small &/or consumable gift for authors who do signings, or who I get to autograph for me at cons.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Elle on August 22, 2007, 09:43:32 pm
I'm not sure I even wanna know about the Brownshirt thing, Elle.
LOL. It's a Firefly thing. That short lived series by Joss Whedon. Browncoats are what the fan base is called. :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Collaroy on August 22, 2007, 10:47:21 pm
I never did go and see a panel unfortunately it all clashed with my Browncoat shindigging. :D

A fellow Browncoat!!! *squeeeeeee*  ;D Best. Show. Ever. Whedon is God and Fox is §%@%&§!

Collaroy, read Dragonflight next before the other Harper books.  Then read Dragonquest, finish the Harper series, then read The White Dragon. ;D 

Thanks for the suggestion! ... hmm, that's the order they indicate on amazon as well. Is it the chronological order?

Yes!  Oh, Collaroy, you & I have a lot in common.  Welcome, friend.
LOL But sometimes I feel like I'm taking it too far- like when I'm (literally!) not able to sit through an entire day of work when I know that there's a book coming out today that I need to read NOW... and then I leave work 4 hours early. I'm not kidding, I've already done that. ;D  I think I should go see someone. Is there something like Readers Anonymous??
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on August 23, 2007, 08:44:40 pm
Darned if I know, Collaroy, but it does sound like you need it.  I've felt the draw myself.  So far my addiction isn't QUITE that bad.
So far. . .
'Course, I've been sending the firelizards out to fetch them for me, she said with a sly grin.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Elle on August 23, 2007, 08:50:49 pm
A fellow Browncoat!!! *squeeeeeee*  ;D Best. Show. Ever. Whedon is God and Fox is §%@%&§!

Shiny! ;)



Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: bingomzan on August 23, 2007, 09:44:36 pm
I dont like my schools librarian. She suggests a book or author to read, and it inevitiably leads me into another series. I have like 10 different series i'm waiting for books from, mosty Sci-fi and fantasy. Atleast i almost always have a book with me at school. Anne mccaffrey's books are good, i love the pern series. (i know i already said that) and i forgot to say that the woman i talked about was not lessa, it was i think before her time, or in her time, but a different weyr. I am leaning more towards the before part. And i just read something else, it wasnt ramoths first queens rider, it was someone else i think. But my memory of books is a little hazy.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Collaroy on August 24, 2007, 06:56:10 am
I dont like my schools librarian. She suggests a book or author to read, and it inevitiably leads me into another series. I have like 10 different series i'm waiting for books from, mosty Sci-fi and fantasy.

LOL That's why I have this love/hate relationship with Amazon- all those recommendations and "Customers who bought this item also bought"... It will definitely ruin me eventually. Nut I'm kidding- I *love* having a stack of at least 10 unread books next to my bed. :)

Elle, isn't this amazing that there are still Browncoats everywhere after all this time? What was Fox thinking cancelling that show?! But I have hope- everybody from the Firefly crew still talks about how much they'd love to keep the Firefly flying somehow. Maybe, someday... *sigh*
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on August 28, 2007, 03:21:33 pm
Collaroy and Elle, I'm a Firefly fan as well!!  I bought the series on DVD and then my husband got hooked.  He wants to have Jaynes love child I think :o  I actually didn't become a fan until the show was already canceled, there wasn't much advertising about the show before it went on the air and while it was on the air......one can always hope it will come back :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Elle on August 28, 2007, 07:10:24 pm
I'm totally starting a Joss Whedon thread! Browncoats Unite!
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on August 28, 2007, 07:15:55 pm
Good idea, Elle, there are a lot of you out here.

I wanna talk about Anne McCaffrey's books, myself.  Has anyone else read 'The Mark of Merlin'?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on August 29, 2007, 11:29:36 am
I haven't heard of that one.....is it any good?? ??? :o
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on August 29, 2007, 07:43:26 pm
As usual, Weyrfolk, it's a matter of taste.  I enjoyed it.  WW II, an army brat in college has her father die on the front.  She's sent to convalesce from pneumonia or some such with a friend of her dad's who's convalesced out to get reconstructive surgery, & he's much surprised that James Carlyle Murdock is female!  And Merlin is her giant german shepard, who is integral to the story.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: weyrfolk on August 30, 2007, 07:52:41 am
Sounds very interesting...I'll look it up.  Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: jackie on September 01, 2007, 09:29:48 am
I've enjoyed many of her books, but stay away from the ones with or by her son.  Disappointed.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cerulean on September 01, 2007, 10:56:35 am
I have a total flashbulb memory of reading The White Dragon as a preteen sitting in the back of my parents' car when it was raining during a camping trip. I think it was my brother's book and I got bored. Then I couldn't figure out what was going on half the time because I hadn't read Dragonflight or Dragonquest. I promptly corrected that when we got home. The White Dragon is still one of my favs. Although she has published a lot of books that are prequels to this original trilogy, I'd suggest reading the original trilogy first, then the Harper Hall trilogy, then going back and reading the prequels. Menolly was one of my favorite characters of all time. After those two trilogies, I'd suggest reading either All the Weyrs of Pern or Dragonsdawn next. In a way, these two are the bookends of the series. Dragonsdawn is about the beginnings of the planet starting from when the colonists were getting ready to land on the planet. I remember being terribly excited when this book came out because I could see all of the place/location names of the people depicted in book. Then All the Weyrs of Pern is about how, well, all the Weyrs, come together to find a final solution to Thread.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 04, 2007, 10:40:00 pm
A rather interesting side note to the Pernese books is the art book 'The People of Pern'.  The painter worked very closely with Ms. McCaffrey to get the images right, & she comments on almost all of them in the book, including the fact that she was so struck with the image of Robinton that she bought the original.
If you get hold of it, you'll notice there are a couple of images that look like actors you may recognize.  They had to fudge a little because of deadlines.
The image that most struck me was Mirrim, impressing her dragon.  I'd swear that the illustrator had travelled back in time to get the model to pose for her, because it looked just like a girl a couple of years older than me who lived across the street where I grew up, and at that time, not when the book was produced.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cerulean on September 05, 2007, 09:51:04 am
Check out The Dragonlover's Guide to Pern, too. It seems its in it's second edition, too. I've got it laying around somewhere ...

Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on September 05, 2007, 02:17:26 pm
If you're really into Pern, you should try Atlis of Pern too. It isn't just maps, but the customs of people in different regions and how their clothes differ.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 05, 2007, 03:30:56 pm
I try to draw a line somewhere, so I haven't looked into that yet.  I think first I need some fellis juice. ;)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on September 06, 2007, 08:05:29 pm
Well, I've always found fantasy cultures very interesting. So I skipped most of the purely geological parts. :P
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Taranis on September 12, 2007, 10:39:24 pm
The only Pern books I've read are Dragon Song and Dragonsinger, both of which I found absolutely amazing.  If I ever get around to that monsterous stack of Books I Want to Read  :P hopefully I can delve deeper into Pern.  I know the Menolly trilogy is kind of stand-alone but do the rest of the Pern books have to be read in order?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 13, 2007, 04:38:45 am
They weren't written & published in chronological Pernese order.
But there is a general chronology.  The main story takes place in the same time frame as the two you've already read.  I'd recommend that you either find the ones that take place earlier, beginning with Dragonsdawn, which tells of the colonist's arrival on Pern, & Dragon's Eye, I think it is, & Nerilka's Story & Moreta, which are all 'historical' from that viewpoint, & read them before you go any further, or pretty much read them by publication date.
The first written were Dragonflight, then Dragonquest, which are the core of the main story, & fit just before/around the Harperhall trilogy/Menolly books.  By the by, the third in that trilogy isn't really about her, it's Piemur's story.  And The White Dragon falls just about there on timeline, too.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Taranis on September 13, 2007, 11:28:01 pm
Thanks for the info, Patti!  That helps a lot.  It's so frustrating when an author writes a load of books and you can't figure out which ones to read first!   :D  I'll definitely try to catch some of the back story first...
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 14, 2007, 07:43:17 am
It is frustrating, & one of my sisters makes that among her favorite grumbles.  But sometimes that's the way the stories come into your mind, sometimes that's the way the Public demands them.  Probably, sometimes that's the way the publisher or your agent, or the movie studio demands they be written.  These days, as they can, many authors will try to include some kind of timeline for their ficton.  But if you get hold of 2 books, for instance, 1 written a decade ago, the other last year, but missing the timeline & not appearing in the one created before that tale, you're not helped, alas. 
I've been annoyed by it on occassion, but my mind is the kind that can tuck things into slots around each other if I like the stories well enough & there are clues enough.
The ones that drive me wild are the ones that range through time within one volume, especially if you have to guess at when each chapter/scene fits into the plot.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Taranis on September 14, 2007, 02:20:59 pm

The ones that drive me wild are the ones that range through time within one volume, especially if you have to guess at when each chapter/scene fits into the plot.

ooh, I HATE that!  It gets me so confused that I'm ready to drop the book and fall into helpless tears!  If you're going to time travel then PLEASE tell me which decade or world I have just jumped to when I turned the page!! :o
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on September 15, 2007, 12:01:31 pm
When in doubt, I suggest going by the order they were published. In fact, thats how I suggest you read Anne McCaffry's books too.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 15, 2007, 12:57:43 pm
Yes, this works perfectly well with her, because she started from something like 1500 years into the human history on the world, & put dates into all the subsequent books, so you can tell where on the timeline you are.
And you don't ever get the feeling that she's jammed the same characters into new costumes & flung them onto a stage with slightly different flats, the way that you do with some people who write different periods on the same world.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 04:24:35 pm
I have a total flashbulb memory of reading The White Dragon as a preteen sitting in the back of my parents' car when it was raining during a camping trip. I think it was my brother's book and I got bored. Then I couldn't figure out what was going on half the time because I hadn't read Dragonflight or Dragonquest. I promptly corrected that when we got home. The White Dragon is still one of my favs. Although she has published a lot of books that are prequels to this original trilogy, I'd suggest reading the original trilogy first, then the Harper Hall trilogy, then going back and reading the prequels. Menolly was one of my favorite characters of all time. After those two trilogies, I'd suggest reading either All the Weyrs of Pern or Dragonsdawn next. In a way, these two are the bookends of the series. Dragonsdawn is about the beginnings of the planet starting from when the colonists were getting ready to land on the planet. I remember being terribly excited when this book came out because I could see all of the place/location names of the people depicted in book. Then All the Weyrs of Pern is about how, well, all the Weyrs, come together to find a final solution to Thread.

I tried to read my roommates copy of The White Dragon in college and could not get into it. Partly it was because I had no clue what was going on :D About 15 or 20 years later I picked up a used omnibus edition of The Dragonriders of Pern. I was hooked. I own all the books up until she started writing with her son. I agree with jackie, they were disappointing.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 04:57:53 pm
It's sad about that, she seems to be pleased with him, but he's dressing science up as fiction, rather than integrating science into fiction, in my opinion.  Does that make sense to you?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: jackie on September 29, 2007, 05:07:02 pm
Well,  MY son is perfect too, you know. ;)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 05:18:28 pm
Well,  MY son is perfect too, you know. ;)
You know why that's funniest to me?  She's given the impression before of favoring her daughter.  Moreta was modeled off of her.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 07:07:07 pm
I hadn't heard that about her daughter but Todd, she said, was the inspiration for ummm I think, 2 characters: one in Decision on Doona, and one in the Pern series, I think maybe The White Dragon. I'll need to look them to be sure but I think those are the books he provided inspiration for.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 08:10:06 pm
Might have been K'van, formerly Keevan, The Smallest Dragonboy.  Unless it was a brother of hers.  Don't remember which myself, too lazy to look it up tonight.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 08:30:24 pm
Yep, that's it. You're good, I just might spare you in the invasion. :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on September 29, 2007, 08:32:18 pm
if you truly invade ill bite your ankles off then cook you
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 08:54:09 pm
if you truly invade ill bite your ankles off then cook you
Cole doesn't eat ankles, they're too boney & scarred from earlier attacks.  Go with infiltration instead.
Cole- while she's infiltrating us, we can be subverting her & her invasion force, yeah?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 09:01:19 pm
if you truly invade ill bite your ankles off then cook you
Cole doesn't eat ankles, they're too boney & scarred from earlier attacks.  Go with infiltration instead.
Cole- while she's infiltrating us, we can be subverting her & her invasion force, yeah?

Sadly, you have already subverted one of my force and the other is MIA. Apparently, I am an invasion force of one.

***prepares boiling oil for the traitor***
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 09:03:35 pm
Oh, you're cooking french fries for them?  Or donuts?
Come over, Luke.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 09:13:17 pm
**pulls out recipe for poached Patti**

Oh no, I will COOK the traitor. :P

I also make a wonderful blood puddiing. :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 09:15:58 pm
Honey, you're going to have to get out your BIG pot if you're going to poach me!
And first you have to find me.  (melting into underbrush in tigeress stripes.)
But go ahead & tell us about your blood pudding in the cooking threads, a voice whispers from the greenery.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 09:24:20 pm
Oh, I have a pot large enough for an elephant. :D

***wonders how to explain her blood pudding***

I usually use the blood of my, erm, victims to make it.   ::)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 09:31:38 pm
***wonders how to explain her blood pudding***
I usually use the blood of my, erm, victims to make it.   ::)
I suspected as much, actually.  It's a great relief.  It means that you're not adding the dietary habits of spiders or mosquitoes to your other acts of violence.
But we really do have 2 cooking threads, and we do put up recepies.  My mom's basic & generally foolproof (if not always weatherproof) fudge is on display there.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 09:35:55 pm
Actually blood pudding, also called black pudding, is a traditional English recipe with equivalent reipes in eastern Europe. 


Edit: added link to recipe

http://www.cimorelli.com/pie/mangia/bloodpud.htm (http://www.cimorelli.com/pie/mangia/bloodpud.htm)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 09:43:20 pm
Heh.  We ought to haul this over to the Mystery section, Dick Francis thread.  Have you read the first of his Sid Halley books?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 09:45:29 pm
Yes, but I don't recall the connection. Remind me?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 09:49:20 pm
It opens with his having been shot in the gut, & Chico telling him he left enough blood soaking into the floorboards to make a tidy blood pudding, much to the shock of the nurse.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 09:53:12 pm
Huh, I don't remember that at all, but then the Sid Halley books aren't my favorites. I really like teh Kit Fielding ones and some of teh others.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 09:56:47 pm
Kit & Holly, Alistair from 'To the Hilt', the artist who went to Australia, wine merchant -  Wait a minute, to the mysteries with us, before Cole attacks again!
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 29, 2007, 10:00:39 pm
I'll meet you there later today, ok? I'm off to bed.

**checks under bed for swords, guns and Patti L's**
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 29, 2007, 10:09:19 pm
Swords I took away with me, guns are dismantled & made into improbable vehicles, & there's only one of me, thank goodness.  Or something.  Like Mae West, with me, 'goodness had nothing to do with it'.  :-)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 09:30:25 am
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on September 30, 2007, 09:45:49 am
you are on a tangent fix it
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 11:13:59 am
I liked the idea of the watch whers being examined more thoroughly, but didn't feel there was the ground work for the whole 'impressed to a handler, wher handler's guild' or whatever thing that came up in 'DragonsKin'.  How do you-all feel about that?
And I moved to Dick Francis, Cole.  Really.  Look at the time stamps. :-[
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on September 30, 2007, 11:51:02 am
I agree, my impression was that they bonded to a group of people. Like leaving a llama with a flock of sheep to protect them.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 12:51:13 pm
Well, nearly all we knew about them was the few scenes in the original story or novella that 'Dragonflight' was based on, before 'Dragonsdawn' was written, & they were more or less thrown away then too.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 01:38:43 pm
I didn't think they rated a whole book, maybe a short story. What next, a whoel book about the grubs? Honestly, I think the series is pretty much mined out.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 02:15:39 pm
I can think of one thing that would seriously revitalize it. . . .
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 03:12:04 pm
AND THAT WOULD BE.......................................?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 03:14:40 pm
heh, heh, heh.  Re-contact with the rest of stargoing humanity, of course.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 03:20:55 pm
HMM, THAT WOULD INVOLVE SOME SERIOUS SCIENCE AND ALSO SPECULATION. SHE HAS stated in various books how many thousands of years have passed since the initial landing. Does earth still exist, how has it changed, how have humans changed, what would the reactions on both sides be, etc.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 03:27:14 pm
Actually, depending on the length of the Pernese year vs. the Terran one, not so long as that.  The colony ship may have taken as much as a couple of centuries to get the colonists in hibernation to Pern (although I think it was more like a couple of years), & the Pernese year/Turn undoubtedly differs in lenght, but is it longer?  1500 +/- Turns could be no more than 900 Terran years, although it's probably fairly congruent.  The drift wasn't bad when that follow up vessel showed up about a generation, generation and a half after their first Threadfall.
But, the science should give Todd room to play.  I just think he needs to bring in a co-author who's more in tune with story flow if he's going to do that.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 03:36:38 pm
Yeah, I forgot about the difference in year lengths. Todd definitely needs some help with story line, characterizations, etc. What is interesting to me is that although Anne has stopped writing the Pern books she has continued with her other series, particularly the one with the frozen planet, I can't remember the name. Apparently she got bored with Pern, she did write a lot of Pern books.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 03:43:54 pm
Like Doyle with Holmes, possibly.  Or, like you said a moment ago, she may feel she's tapped out what there was to be said about it.  I just don't get into either the Peytabee (I think that's the cold planet?) or the Acorna books.
And it's been several years since I heard the rumor that she was dying of cancer, so while that may not be the case, she could indeed be suffering from a variety of health problems, & content to let her son deal with the Pern universe.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 03:47:04 pm
I hadn't heard about the cancer but at her age health problems are certainly possible. I figured she was either bored with Pern or felt tapped out, but still invested enough to let her son continue with the series.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 03:57:50 pm
Well, the cancer may be mere rumor.  And it's entirely likely that it's a combination of the two on Pern.  Plus, when the survey (or whatever) ship stopped in soon after they mostly moved to the northern continent, they were planning on putting the planet on an indicted list, so the contact might not come from outside, & she might have been stymied about how to get that contact going again.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 04:04:48 pm
Now, you've got me wanting more PERN STORIES, INVOLVING CONTAcT WITH EARTH.

Maybe enough time has passed that a ship woudl be sent to investigate the indicted planet and see id the situat=ion has changed. If the big corps are still running things, tehy may want to explore untapped options for profits. The possible payoff might be worth the potentil risks.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 04:09:41 pm
Possible.  The sneaky people who left/deserted with them brought seeds for either numbweed or fellis, or possibly both, so they know there are goodies there.  And they may also be under the impression that there are no people there any more.  And -  Nope, I'll wait an exchange or two to dump more brain bombs on you. :-)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 04:12:40 pm
Fellis isn't native to Pern? I don't recall that.

Brain bombs? **puts on armor and pours a Baileys and cream**
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 04:18:51 pm
Ooh, I wanna come drinking with you!   ;D
No, I mean they took them away from Pern. 
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 04:25:23 pm
ah, guess the drinks messed up my comprehension of your post. Yeah, new, potetnially profitable medicines would def be motive for returning. Woudln't that be a kick in the pants if a ship showed up not expecting to find people living there.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 04:30:50 pm
And consider, depending on how long after the events of 'All the Weyrs' they arrived (including Jaxom & Ruth's jump forward to the empty bridge of the -Yokahama, was it?) they might find they have to deal with traffic control.  Or just hit the whatsitphere (what do I know about the levels of atmosphere?) and discover an escort of dragons falling into formation around them. . .  ;D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 04:50:36 pm
An escort of dragons-I love it! I woudln't mind one but i sure would want some advance notice.

I haven't a clue about the levels of atmosphere either.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 05:03:59 pm
Are you kidding?  I don't just want an escort, I want to impress one.  Back in days of old, when covered wagons & dinosaurs thundered across the plains, when Ricardo Montelban hosted the original Fantasy Island, I thought that would be a really cool fantasy for someone to request there, around the edges of the 2 main stories for the week.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on September 30, 2007, 05:05:50 pm
I remember that show, I used to watch it. That was befiore I read McCffrey however. I would like to impress a dragon but don't really want to fight thread. I'm a wimp. 
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on September 30, 2007, 08:55:15 pm
I remember that show, I used to watch it. That was befiore I read McCffrey however. I would like to impress a dragon but don't really want to fight thread. I'm a wimp. 
Ditto.  Let's arrive either in an Interval, or after the Red Star's been moved so it doesn't haul the stuff out of the Oort cloud any more, eh?
Although, the one reason that wouldn't have been a good fantasy in retrospect, is the incredible sadness of losing your dragon when the fantasy ended.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on October 01, 2007, 03:07:58 pm
Actually, depending on the length of the Pernese year vs. the Terran one, not so long as that.  The colony ship may have taken as much as a couple of centuries to get the colonists in hibernation to Pern (although I think it was more like a couple of years), & the Pernese year/Turn undoubtedly differs in lenght, but is it longer?  1500 +/- Turns could be no more than 900 Terran years, although it's probably fairly congruent.  The drift wasn't bad when that follow up vessel showed up about a generation, generation and a half after their first Threadfall.
I think there was about a month more in a Pernese year. (Month ~ 30, 24 hour, days)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 01, 2007, 06:40:11 pm
Thank you, Zealith.  Still, assuming I'm right about the length of the hibernation, 30 days x 1500 years = gosh, I blanked out on math, 150 extra years?  120?  Considering how much Pern lost, but regained when they rediscovered the AI, how much technical gap would there be?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on October 01, 2007, 07:38:49 pm
I would imagine quiet a lot. Also, I think that there was enough problems with accepting the tecnology AVIS gave them. What sort of danger would the people who came to Pern be in?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 01, 2007, 08:02:44 pm
You mean an expidition from outside?  Hard to say.  I don't think the Pernese would be automatically hostile, but if the outsiders came in like Europeans to North America, ready to rape the planet & ignore the inhabitants & their rights, they'd be formidable, I expect.  Even though the AI had wiped it's personality/memory, the facts were still there, even if the concensus seemed to be that they should continue to limit their dependence on tech.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 01, 2007, 09:01:20 pm
Yeah, the Pernese population as a whole is not keen on technology. Actaully, except for the glaring omission of religion, they remind of the Amish and other religious groups who have strong views on technology.

I agree that they would defend their planet against any visitors who they believed to be unfriendly, threatening or otherwise problematic. Having said that, I think that if new arrivals wanted to stay and settle they'd be welcomed, provided of course that they abided by Pernese law and cusotm.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 01, 2007, 09:18:16 pm
And that would provide some interesting stories, I'd imagine.  Maybe (dubiously) enough for a book.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on October 02, 2007, 03:01:05 pm
Interesting fanfiction at the least.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 02, 2007, 03:46:59 pm
Maybe an anthology of short stories by different authors? It would be interesting to see other writers take on Pern.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on October 02, 2007, 04:22:47 pm
I would like to see that. There have been so many different worlds that when they were opened up to other authors  were really added to.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 02, 2007, 04:45:13 pm
Yup yup yup.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 02, 2007, 09:39:39 pm
um.  It's already happened in a limited way.  Fifteen years or so ago there were, or maybe was a, 'choose your own adventure' book(s) about Pern.  The one I recall involved Robinton as a young, travelling Harper.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 03, 2007, 06:12:21 am
 :o NO!!! Really? I missed that entirely. I still like my idea better. :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 03, 2007, 08:14:52 am
Oh, & I forgot to specify, it was written, with her permission, by someone other than Ms. McCaffrey.  And I think there are fans out here that could do really good jobs too.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 03, 2007, 11:58:44 am
Some fan fiction can be excellent. Does she have a website?

Do you think Patty would allow fan fic of her work to be posted here? It's a lot of fun when authors do that.

**wanders off to google Anne**
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on October 03, 2007, 03:06:41 pm
That person wrote two, I only picked up the second one, but it didn't impress me at all.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 03, 2007, 03:58:12 pm
Ah, I found her site, and bookmarked it. :) Happiness.

http://www.annemccaffrey.net/index.php (http://www.annemccaffrey.net/index.php)

And the aswer to my question is "no". She has links on her site to sites that are RPG's based on her works, and other fan fiction but nothing actually on her site.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 03, 2007, 05:54:29 pm
And our Hostess here is firmly anti-fan-fic in her worlds.  It's on her own posts.  I'd better go catch my bus. 
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 03, 2007, 06:13:15 pm
She is? That's too bad. I have not seen those posts but I'll keep reading, I have so much to catch up on.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 12, 2007, 08:04:51 pm
Hey, twin, have you read 'the Mark of Merlin', her WW II romance/mystery?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on October 12, 2007, 08:07:35 pm
The title sounds familiar but the description doesn't. Do you think it's still in print?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 12, 2007, 08:12:54 pm
Not sure.  Should be in used book stores, it wasn't reprinted more than 15 years ago.  Oh, gosh, that's the same time Spryte was 'printed'!  Hee hee!
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Sofy on October 18, 2007, 03:02:56 am
Mc Caffrey was one of the first authors of SF (with MZ Bradley) that lead me to love this genre. I began to read them when I was a teenager (first in French then in English)

I recommend
- The Pern's series
- Brain & Brawn Ship Series
- Crystal Singer Series
- Freedom Series
- Petaybee Series
- Talent Series and then Tower and Hive Series


Not among my favorites, but still good books
- Acorna Series
- The Coelura Series
- No One Noticed the Cat


Enjoy!

Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on October 24, 2007, 04:48:34 pm
Found this online a while ago, and thought you guys who also read Pern might enjoy it.

You know you've been reading Pern too long when...




-You actually have a folder on your computer named "Weyr".

-You name your harddrives after Pern and other stellar accompaniments.

-You try to scan documents using the cdrom drive.

-You run out of pressed sheets instead of paper.

-Your printer has wherhide instead of paper.

-You write "AIVAS" in big letters across your computer's case.

-You change your PC prompt to "AIVAS:/"



-Your wife asks "Who the hell is this Ruth you're talking to in your sleep?"

-You tell your boss to "go between and stay there!"

-You're at a National Park, you see a sign that says "Path This Way", and start running, looking for a green dragon.

-You have bumper sticker saying: "I'd rather be flying my dragon." or "My other vehicle is a dragon."

-You've started a "Don't drink and fly" campaign.

-You want to duck in between during difficult dates.

-You see your friend drawing a scaly red dragon with only two legs and whip out your Dragonlover's Guide to Pern (never leave home without it!) to prove him wrong.

-You wonder when the Weyrs will start their own airline.

-You are sure that the misquito that you were trying to swat just went between.

-You think that the best airline should get you anywhere on the planet in the time it takes to cough three times.

-You get into a fight with someone and call them "a smokeless weyrling"

-You're watching the Olympics and you wonder how a man can get a Gold, how a woman can get a Bronze, and if the Silver is a runt of some kind.

-You try to explain a really bad day with "It's like I just lost my dragon..."

-You're feeling slightly amorous and immediately think your dragon must be proddy.

-You swell with rage whenever you see a dragon depicted as evil in legends.

-You will only buy cars that are Bronze, Brown, Blue, Green (men) or Gold (women), and then after signing the contract you smile and tell the salemen the cars name.

-You're perfectly fine when you hear a voice that no one else can - he's your dragon, isn't he?

-You hear noise outside in the middle of the night and wonder where your watchwher is.

-You make sure your kid's name can still sound good when he impresses a dragon.

-You sit in a traffic jam on your way to work and wish your car could go between.

-Every time you see a name ending in -th you wonder what colour.

-You ask a pregnant woman when she is going to clutch.

-You wake up in the morning and look around for your dragon.

-You go car shopping and only consider those which are gold, bronze, brown, blue, green or white.

-Someone speaks of making an impression, and you ask, "What color?"

-You meet someone named Ruth and wonder where Jaxom is.

-Every time you wake up in the middle of the night, you start saying, "Black, blacker, blackest..."

-You get confused and ask somebody, "When's the Hatching again?"

-You think that the plane that just passed over you looked a lot like Ramoth.

-You get embarrassed and try to pop between.

-You think that Komodo Dragons are one of Kitti Ping's early forays into genetic engineering.

-You wonder where the flight controls are on your car.

-You spell your kid's name with an apostrophy after the consonant.

-You spend 3 hours in the local DIY store looking for hide oil.

-You see Dragonheart and wonder which freak-queen's hatching Draco came from.

-On a school trip to see some natural caves you figure out where to put the bedding.

-You refer to the weather as being "colder than between."

-You go horseback riding and try to mentaly command your horse to go between.

-You hear a stereo system with a good woofer and start looking for the Hatching Ground.

-You wonder where to find sacks of fuel for your car.

-You keep begging your band director to order a band arrangement of "Moreta's Ride" or "The Firelizard Song."

-You have stuck wings onto your pet iguana (or just pet.)

-All of your household pets names end in "th".

-You pass K'Mart and wonder which dragon he rides?

-You have no idea what K'nex are, but you see them in the toy store and buy them right away because you like the name.

-You call seat belts riding straps.

-You think the book of Ruth in the Bible is about a dragon.

-You walk out of the mall and wonder where you left your dragon.

-You imagine which friend would have which colour dragon.

-You try and figure out what your friends' names would be if they had dragons.

-Ruth is your role-model.

-Your ranking scale of guys/girls goes somthing like: Gold, Bronze, Brown, Green or Blue.

-Your first reaction to a friend's wedding is "have your dragons agreed to the match?"

-You remind the kids to put on their fighting straps when you get in the car.

-You start wondering what your friends' names would be if they Impressed.

-Your entire literature class is a debate on whether or not dragons exist-and guess who started it?

-To you, each blob in a Rorschach (inkblot) test resembles a dragon fighting thread.

-You wonder how a dragon could ever hoarde treasure without its rider knowing.

-You refer to your homepage as a weyr-page.

-In a medi-evil era movie you can't believe that someone would want to kill a dragon!

-You think the Grand Canyon might be a good Weyr.

-You have a sign saying "beware of watchwher" on your front gate.



-You get really excited when you learn that salamander actually means fire lizard.

-You bring home a carton of eggs and start to put them in the oven, rather than the refrigerator: they'll never hatch in there!

-You keep a bucket of sand and a heating pad in the basement, just in case.

-You want to send a message by fire lizard since you're online and the phone line is in use.

-You wait for a rock to hatch - no one's impressing this fire lizard but you!

-You think the fairy tales Beauty & the Beast and Sleeping Beauty are about firelizards.

-You get pulled over by a traffic cop and you left your drivers licence at home. You can picture the exact spot you left it, and wish you had a firelizard to go home and get it for you. (Ouch!)

-You saw The Lost World and thought the compys were really fire-lizards.

-Instead of scratching your dog behind the ears you scratch its eye-ridges.

-You get frantic when your stuffed firelizard doesn't move.

-You want to send a letter and look for your firelizard to take it.

-You swear that your neighbor's new canary is a firelizard with feathers glued to it.

-You think a firelizard would be a great wedding present.

-At the beach, you have an urge to look for fire-lizard eggs.



-You wonder why roast wherry isn't on the restaurant menu

-You can't go to sleep, so you look for fellis juice in the fridge.

-You are at a fancy restaurant and look over the wine list for Benden White and are dissapointed when they don't have it.

-You actually make the klah recipe in The Dragon Lover's Guide to Pern.

-You search the supermarket for redfruit juice.

-You spend three hours in a pub with your friends discussing whether you like herdbeast or wherry.

-You put 'klah' on an actual grocery list without thinking

-You try to find bubbly pies in the local bakery.

-You look for roasted wherry on a dinner menu.

-You get hungry for dinner and start screaming for the Headwoman.

-You start squeezing the oil out of all the fish you catch.

-You make up a pot of Dragonrider's Choice klah in the morning.

-The local strip mall has a tent sale, and you go asking for bubbly pies.

-You go to your local coffee shop and wonder why they don't have klah.

-You modify the klah recipie in the Dragon Lover's Guide to Pern to make it taste how you think klah should taste.

-You go to a fair and ask a worker which stall is selling the bubbly pies.

-You drink cinnamon herbal tea each day, just so that you can call it klah.

-You write down a recipe for a friend and use ingredients like "redfruit" or "fingeroots"

-You ask a McDonalds employee to give you a box of Herdbeast McNuggets.

-You have an arguement with your friend over whether herdbeast stew or bubbly pies taste better.



-You've organized your own gather.

-You think that the local athletic field is a Gather meadow.

-You spend your time in the Arts and Crafts tent at Summer Camp putting together your rendition of the infamous Ruathan tapestry.

-You refer to an upcoming party as the next Gather.

-You go to a horse race and ask where are the runnerbeasts?



-You're sure that a dolphin at Seaworld asked you to be his dolphineer.

-You ring a bell at Seaworld and wonder why the dolphins don't react.

-You can't find your leather jacket and ask about if anyone has seen your wherhyde as the winds are cold as Benden's peaks.

-You're planning a honeymoon and you wonder how difficult it would be to get to Cove Hold.

-You're sure that rare red-tailed hawk was a wherry.

-You name your home after a Weyr, Hold, Crafthall, etc. of Pern.

-You refuse to go into the subway system because of tunnel snakes.

-You see dolphins on TV and instantly wonder where the dolphineers are.

-You wish you had some firestone when your sibling drives you crazy.

-You complain to the airport about luggage gone between.

-You don't agree with you doctor's diagnosis of your back problems and demand to see a dolphin for a second opinion.

-You respond to a questionnaire and in the race box check other and type in "Pernese."

-Your spell check has learned words like Pern, Weyr, fire-lizards, harper, etc.

-You think that your country's coinage is fake because it isn't carved from wood, and there are no Crafthall markings on it.

-You've already read all the Pernese stories, but you read them again in order and conduct an intense study of which candidates Impress, and which are left standing.

-You go outside at night and look around frantically for the other moon.

-You look in the Sagittarius sector for Rukbat so you can locate Pern. -You try and figure out what your friends would be if on Pern.

-You actually have an excuse for why you are on Terra and not Pern.

-You watch Star Trek, hear names like B'Elanna, and think "Oh my word! They made a Pern show and didn't tell me?"

-Your spouse, thanks to you, knows just as much as you about Pern without having read any of the books.

-The local library's annual budget is made up entirely of the overdue fines from you Pern books.

-You ask your doctor for a Mentasynth injection.

-You make your own marks in Industrial Arts and hope no one sees you and charges you with counterfeiting.



-You get miffed when the music store doesn't have Menolly's latest CD.

-The name 'Fax' leaps to mind while watching a documentary about Hitler.

-You can never understand why people send a 'Fax'.

-You panic when you here that a friend is getting Fax at his office.

-You think that the '60s folk singer Melanie spells her name wrong.

-As you read about Robinton's death, you start wondering when they'll print the obituary in the local newspaper.

-You start talking about F'lar's and Lessa's latest escapades and wonder why your friends give you wierd looks.

-You see an ad for a sleeping pill and wonder what's so boring about Lytol.

-You wonder if Fandarel has noticed the fake sweetner brand has spelt his name wrongly.

-You think the rechargeable batteries were named after the Master Miner.

-You can think of, or understand, statements like the last ones without opening any books.

-Someone shouts "A fax for you" and you pull out your trusty knife.

-You watch the nightly news looking for a crime report about Lady Thella.

-You like Robinton's 'A minor miner problem.'

-You eat out with a person named Robinton and automatically order them a glass of wine, then ask them what year it is.

-When you hear "Take me to your leader" and the first name that comes to mind is F'lar.

-Asked who your favorite singer is and you come up with Robinton or Menolly.

-You read a story about con artists and wonder how many of them are Bitran.

-You've bet Bitran odds on anything.

-You start to cry when you read the notice in the front cover of any Pern books that reads "All characters in this book -are fictional."

-You see a good-looking guy and think, "Sure, he's cute, but he ain't no F'lar."

-You insult someone by saying "You son of a Bitran!"

-You get excited if you meet someone with the last name Hanrahan.

-All your passwords are names from Pern books.

-You have a debate with a friend about whether or not F'lar and Lessa should have tricked Toric into not holding too much land.



-You feel that only sand can get you a fresh clean feeling.

-You actually know which earth plants correspond to the plants used on Pern.

-You break your leg and frantically scream for numbweed.

-You cover your mouth in the presence of your pet cat.

-You see spots and think you have fire-head.

-You look for numbweed in your medicine cabinet.

-You're almost sure your cat has the plague.

-You refer to any tall trees as skybrooms.

-You spend hours searching the beaches for that closest match to skybroom wood so you can make marks out of it.



-You get the new Masterharper CD and can sing many of the songs first time through the CD.

-Your teacher starts discussing morse code and you compare it to the report sequence.

-You see Harper's Magazine and wonder if the other Crafthalls have their own literature.

-You make up your own teaching ballads.

-A huge event occurs and you wonder which Harper will write the ballad about it.

-You go to a local club and wonder which Harpers will be performing tonight.

-You hear some juicy gossip and look around for a harper to help you spread the news.

-You are considering getting married and wonder which Harper you can get to officiate.

-You want your teacher to teach you the Pythagorean theorem by using a teaching song.

-You refer to your teachers/professors as "Craftmasters".

-You call paperwork "hidework".

-You call nitric acid Agenothree in chemistry class.

-You can actually remember all of the Masters.



-You call an irritating sibling a "deadglow."

-You call your room a weyr or your bed a cot.

-You refer to being grounded as "all holds barred".

-You scream "Heard and witnessed" when your teacher threatens to throw your best friend out the next time they do that.

-You call auditioning people "Candidates" and those who made it "those who Impressed".

-When someone insults you, you cry, "I claim insult from you, _______!"

-You go to ask your boss for a promotion and ask him when you'll get to "walk the tables".

-You only measure big things in dragonlenghs.

-You have given yourself a Pernese name!

-You describe a bad sunburn as having "peeled like a tunnel snake."

-You think that the precursor to the world wide web was Harpernet.

-You substitute "turns" for "years".

-You take to swearing "Shards", "Shells" or any other Pernese cuss word.

-You introduce yourself by your Pernese name and then can't remember your Earth one.

-You think of your country's coinage as Marks.

-When someone asks your birthday, you say Pass 13.05.04

-You see a beatle and call it a trundle bug.

-You call you parents Weyrwoman and Weyrleader, and your siblings drudges.

-You name your buddy list "Dragondex".

-Your e-mail address has "Weyr" or a dragon name in it.



-You see grass growing between paving stones and bend over to remove it.

-You find yourself checking distant clouds for threadfall.

-The dorm fire alarm goes off, and instead of going for the exit, you look for threadfall shutters to close.

-You hear a newscaster mention that NASA is planning a trip to "the Red Planet" and you think, "but F'lar and company did that already."

-You refuse to go outside in the rain in case it might be Thread.

-You go out at night, look up at Mars, and shiver with dread.

-You look out at a grey sky and think "that looks like thread!"

-You check the weather channel to see if there'll be threadfall this weekend.

-You wonder if you should replace your lawn with cobblestones.

-You head for a stone building when you see Mars.

-You look up from reading and get scared because the walls aren't stone.

-You notice Venus in the morning sky and mistake it for the Buenos Aries.

-You carve a hole in a rock and wait for Mars to align with it.

-You plan your vacation according to Mars' proximity to the big rock on top of the hill.

-You refer to bleeding injuries as "threadscore".

-You wonder why they don't do Threadfall charts on the weather channel.

-You pass the weeds on the sidewalk and reach for your flamethrower.

-You look horrified when someone mentiones that your 'grubby' hands need washing.

-You hear news about an asteroid passing by earth and worry that it may carry Thread.

-You search bait-and-tackle stores for cans of drowned thread.

-Your local community is having a festival and you make a mental note that it must be a thread-free day.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cerulean on October 24, 2007, 06:45:35 pm
Wow - after reading all that, I think I've gotta re-read all my Pern books!
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Mike Briggs on October 24, 2007, 07:35:52 pm
Wow - after reading all that, I think I've gotta re-read all my Pern Porn books!

There you go Cerulean, I fixed your spelling.   Naughty Naughty.  :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Grey Drakkon on October 24, 2007, 07:43:17 pm
Uh-oh, someone figured out how to play with people's quotes.   ;D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Collaroy on October 25, 2007, 12:38:05 am
Uh-oh, someone figured out how to play with people's quotes.   ;D
Heh. They grow up so fast... :-[ But you can't help but be proud.

I'm sure Mike's been itching to do that ever since this thread was started. ;D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Zealith on October 25, 2007, 12:04:51 pm
*snicker* Where is your mind, Mike?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Mike Briggs on October 25, 2007, 04:15:22 pm
*snicker* Where is your mind, Mike?
Hey, I'm supposed to be a dirty old man! 
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on October 25, 2007, 06:24:10 pm
Well, remember, 'suppose' is just a way to make an 'ass' out of -- oh, wait, never mind.  Too much fellis & numbweed there.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cerulean on October 26, 2007, 09:40:19 am
Wow - after reading all that, I think I've gotta re-read all my Pern Porn books!

There you go Cerulean, I fixed your spelling.   Naughty Naughty.  :D

Oh man! You caught me!!  ::) Thanks for the help  ;)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cole on October 26, 2007, 06:07:30 pm
Mike sit in the chair and we will get you all the benden wine you can ever want and bubbly pies
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: LadyErehwon on January 18, 2008, 01:33:24 pm
I first read her Pern books, which I loved, but I have to hope for more of Nimisha, rather than Acorna (yeeech!)

Did anyone notice?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: mtomni on April 08, 2008, 06:58:49 am
I brought this up in one of the other sites (books to movies) and it was suggested I bring it up here.

Is there any chance that the DRoP will be made into movies?  With the graphics of today, it would be so cool!  Someone said TV?  I'm not sure TV would be the best medium.  It would probably be made into a cartoon.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on April 08, 2008, 08:41:32 am
The fact is, and if you go back & read the old pages, I'm pretty sure that a couple of us mentioned it, there were at least 2 attempts made to produce live & CGI versions of it; Ms. McCaffrey even got to sit in a 'dragon saddle' from a Canadian production that was started, but they both fell through for reasons I don't recall, if I ever knew them.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: mtomni on April 08, 2008, 10:39:35 am
Thank you Patti L. for answering my question.  I did try to read all of the back pages, but ran out of time.  Guests coming, clean house (UGH!).
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on April 08, 2008, 02:06:43 pm
Yes, that's the way I feel.  Probably with more reason (much messier house).
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: mtomni on April 09, 2008, 07:47:01 am
Some wise woman (must have been a woman to say this!) that a clean house is the sign of a sick mind.  I believe in being comfortably messing.  Then I go on cleaning binges for holidays.  :D

Has anyone read McCaffrey's Ring of Fear or The Kilternan Legacy?  Both books have the same feel as Mark of Merlin.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on April 09, 2008, 07:54:34 am
Some wise woman (must have been a woman to say this!) that a clean house is the sign of a sick mind.  I believe in being comfortably messing.  Then I go on cleaning binges for holidays.  :D

Has anyone read McCaffrey's Ring of Fear or The Kilternan Legacy?  Both books have the same feel as Mark of Merlin.

I read Ring of Fear and enjoyed it; I also liked The Lady, though parts of it made me mad.  >:( It's scary hwo few rights women have in some parts of the world.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on April 09, 2008, 08:31:28 am
Is it ring of fear or ring of fire?  Or am I mixing it up with the song Johnny Cash sang?
How about 'the year of the Lucy'?  Boy, that had some interesting stuff too.  And who's read "A Stitch in Snow"?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: mtomni on April 10, 2008, 08:03:17 am
Patti L., you are correct.  It is Ring of Fear, not Fire.  Never could get through Lucy, but loved Stitch in Snow. 
I bought 3 of her books at a SciFi bookstore (Ring of Fear, Mark of Merlin, Kilternan Legacy) published by Brandywyne and the owner was glad to get rid of them because they weren't scifi.  Expensive books today.  And they are still my favorites of her romance stories.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cerulean on April 17, 2008, 12:53:19 pm
A Stitch in Snow was one of my favorite books by her! Aside from the Pern books, of course.

Although I also really loved her "Talent" books, starting with To Ride Pegasus. I liked her Tower and Hive series, too (which follow from the Talent books), but I like the early Talent ones better. I stopped reading the Tower & Hive books about three books in - they became a bit too ... abstract? Hard to describe. I didn't feel for the characters much.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Patti L. on April 17, 2008, 01:26:24 pm
I got the feeling she was in a situation where she'd said all she had to say about Damia & co in that generation, their adventures were essentially over.  But either she'd signed a contract, or somebody waved some irresistible amount of money in front of her, & she scraped up something to follow it with by going on to the next generation & a 'BEM' menace.  Might have been because of medical bills or taxes or something.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: charmed on April 17, 2008, 03:50:46 pm

Although I also really loved her "Talent" books, starting with To Ride Pegasus. I liked her Tower and Hive series, too (which follow from the Talent books), but I like the early Talent ones better. I stopped reading the Tower & Hive books about three books in - they became a bit too ... abstract? Hard to describe. I didn't feel for the characters much.

I love To Ride Pegasus and enjoy the sequels, I loved the original Tower Story but the Tower and Hive series just left me cold. I just didn't care about any of the characters.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffery
Post by: Cerulean on April 18, 2008, 08:56:39 am

Although I also really loved her "Talent" books, starting with To Ride Pegasus. I liked her Tower and Hive series, too (which follow from the Talent books), but I like the early Talent ones better. I stopped reading the Tower & Hive books about three books in - they became a bit too ... abstract? Hard to describe. I didn't feel for the characters much.

I love To Ride Pegasus and enjoy the sequels, I loved the original Tower Story but the Tower and Hive series just left me cold. I just didn't care about any of the characters.

Exactly - there's so much more characterization in the earlier books. IMO the characterization fell behind at least partly because she was trying hard to show that the society/characters had "advanced" and weren't like regular humans anymore. While the goal is admirable, people need to empathize with characters to care for them. Once they're so far out from what we can recognize, we stop caring about them.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Staplegun on April 21, 2008, 06:09:37 pm
okay, I've looked through most all of the posts, but I haven't been able to find anything on this one...I'm sorry if I missed it! Oo

The Death of Sleep Has anyone read it? I liked it, but I thought it ended too quickly. Good concept (yes, I realized it has been done before as a plot, but I liked the character-driven aspect of it) but if-y execution.

It was a collaboration with Jody Lynn Nye if you are wondering and haven't seen it before.

the amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/Death-Sleep-Planet-Pirates/dp/1857230051/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208829507&sr=8-1) if anyone is wondering about it.

EDIT: tidied up link- charmed
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on April 21, 2008, 09:52:22 pm
I read the Sassinik & co books.  They're fun in several ways, but it was another case where they should have had at the very least some 3x5 cards with certain 'world building bricks' listed on them.  There were outright contradictions of how certain races biologies worked from one book to another.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Suzi on May 14, 2008, 10:45:47 am
Watch out if you read both the planet pirate and dinosaur planet books, there's a big cross over and you'll get that "i've read this before" feeling.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: mdauben on July 19, 2008, 09:31:53 am
I just recently re-read the first two books of the original Dragonriders series (Dragonflight and Dragonquest) and still enjoyed them quite a bit.  I first read them years ago when I used to belong to the SFBC.  I seem to remember not enjoying the later novels in the series and eventually dropping them, possibly becuase they were more spin offs devoted to minor or even toally new characters rather than sequels with the main characters from the original two books.  :-\

I have also read some of her Ship Who... books and Sassinak and found them good, but not great, reads.  I've never read any of the Crystal Singer or Talents books
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Talyn on October 02, 2008, 07:29:27 pm
Has anyone read the Petaybee series? The first trilogy( Powers That Be) and then the 2nd trilogy? (Twins of Petaybee) I loved Powers that Be. While I very much enjoyed the first book in the Twins of Petaybee series, the quality got a little worse in the 2nd book in that trilogy, with to me, the last book in the trilogy being not that good at all. I read it once and I never read it again. I can't say why, but something completely turned me off of it.

I don't know, anyone else read this to share their opinion?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: ElefiNecol on October 02, 2008, 07:38:16 pm
I've read and overall enjoyed most of her books earlier books, including that series, but I would agree with you that I didn't like the more recent books nearly as much.  I think I completely lost interest in the newer books after the first Acorna book.  She's the author that introduced me to the sci fi/fantasy written world as a child, and after she took the time to write to me when I was a teenager I could never actually dislike her.  :)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on October 02, 2008, 07:42:50 pm
I at least started to read the first one, I know that.  But I don't think I finished it.  
To be honest, I suspect she may have outlined & started it, but that her son took them pretty much over, whether he's credited for them or not.  He doesn't write up to her standard, when she felt well.
She's an elderly lady now, who's had health problems for years, I've heard for a decade that she might be dying of cancer, so that's my best guess; it's mostly Todd now, and that's why they're not grabbing us.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Talyn on October 02, 2008, 07:54:43 pm
That makes a lot sense. I hope she gets better, or at least can enjoy her last few years.  :-[
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: ElefiNecol on October 02, 2008, 07:57:08 pm
It does make sense.  I don't think I noticed specifically when her son started being more involved - it would be interesting to figure that out in her book time line.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on October 02, 2008, 08:00:07 pm
I agree, I loved the first trilogy, and I'll probably finish the second, but it doesn't grab me as well.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: wizardbear on April 06, 2011, 11:38:03 am
I keep getting the feeling that I'm the only person on the planet who read Restoree. I know I'm not, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times here at Hurog, but out in the cold cruel world, it's seldom mentioned. It's her first book, SF, pretty good, not great. I liked it. But I guess it flew like a lead balloon, cause no one ever seems to mention it. I can't count the number of times I've mentioned it and got a blank look. It's funny, I liked a lot of her harder Sf, the more techy ones, like Brains/Brawn books. And Doona. I like the Dragons too, I snatched them up as fast as they came out until the last few Todd books, which I put off till they were affordable. I'm glad he's carrying on, but I wanted more dragons in space. That's the trouble, writers don't listen to me.  LOL Maybe that will catch on? Robert Jordan has a successor, too. We could get lucky here ...  LOL LOL LOL
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on April 06, 2011, 12:00:06 pm
"Blue bowl!  Blue Bowl!"

I don't think Todd gets "human" adequately.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: wizardbear on April 06, 2011, 01:43:08 pm
"Eat Red Food!" ha Ha Ha. And now everyone *knows* we're crazy ...
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on April 12, 2011, 08:31:23 pm
Looks like there's a new pern book coming out, and look, time travel appears to be the solution once again.  9)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Cerulean on April 13, 2011, 08:29:02 am
Looks like there's a new pern book coming out, and look, time travel appears to be the solution once again.  9)

Do you have a link where we could find out more? I'm very curious.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: ElefiNecol on April 13, 2011, 10:35:36 am
It also appears that a movie may be in the making.

David Hayter Adapting Anne McCaffrey’s First ‘Dragonriders of Pern’ Novel (http://www.slashfilm.com/david-hayter-writing-dragonriders-pern/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashfilm+%28%2FFilm%29)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: wizardbear on April 13, 2011, 10:36:20 am
http://www.amazon.com/Dragons-Time-Dragonriders-Pern/dp/034550089X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302719646&sr=1-1

Dragon's Time: Dragonriders of Pern (The Dragonriders of Pern) [Hardcover]
Anne McCaffrey (Author), Todd J. McCaffrey (Author)

This title will be released on June 28, 2011.

***warning: this page contains spoilers***

more information available here:
http://www.pernhome.com/aim/
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Cerulean on April 13, 2011, 11:18:43 am
It also appears that a movie may be in the making.

David Hayter Adapting Anne McCaffrey’s First ‘Dragonriders of Pern’ Novel (http://www.slashfilm.com/david-hayter-writing-dragonriders-pern/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashfilm+%28%2FFilm%29)

Ah, you beat me to it! Here's a source from Syfy: http://blastr.com/2011/04/dragonriders-of-pern-is-f.php
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on April 13, 2011, 04:51:15 pm
Do you have a link where we could find out more? I'm very curious.

Here's the info from the back of the book:

Even though Lorana cured the plague that was killing the dragons of Pern, sacrificing her queen dragon in the process, the effects of the disease were so devastating that there are no longer enough dragons available to fight the fall of deadly Thread. And as the situation grows more dire, a pregnant Lorana decides that she must take drastic steps in the quest for help. Meanwhile, back at Telgar Weyr, Weyrwoman Fiona, herself pregnant, and the harper Kindan must somehow keep morale from fading altogether in the face of the steadily mounting losses of dragons and their riders. But time weighs heavily against them - until Lorana finds a way to use time itself in their favor. It's a plan fraught with risk, however. For attempting time travel means tampering with the natural laws of the universe, which could drastically alter history - and destiny - forever. Or so it has always been thought. But Lorana discovers that if the laws of time can't be broken without consequences, it may still be possible to bend them. To ensure the future of Pern, she's willing to take the fateful chance - even if it demands another, even greater, sacrifice.

Movie would be cool. I've always wanted to see it adapted.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: mtomni on June 08, 2011, 08:00:13 am
I wonder who was the cast in the TV series that fell apart?
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on November 22, 2011, 09:16:06 pm
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45409015 (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45409015)

Anne McCaffrey has died. I know she hasn't written much lately, but it still makes me sad.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on November 22, 2011, 09:19:12 pm
She's reported to have been working on something new; maybe her son will finish it & get it out for us.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: mtomni on November 25, 2011, 08:41:21 pm
Todd seems to have done most of her work in the last few years.  She introduced me to scifi so many years ago.  I can still remember thinking "I want a dragon!!" after reading one of her Pern books.  Her stories were and are so wonderful.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on September 13, 2018, 07:49:13 pm
https://www.tor.com/2018/09/13/unnatural-love-and-healing-charles-perraults-donkey-skin-and-other-fairy-tales/

Reading this, I suddenly realized that Lessa sort of fits the Cinderella trope.
Oy.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on September 13, 2018, 08:54:45 pm
I can see that argument.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: pondhawk on September 14, 2018, 06:23:41 am
Deerskin, my least favorite of Robin McKinley's books, a once-read if ever there was one, is based on the same story.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on September 14, 2018, 04:46:32 pm
Yes, I rather anticipated they'd bring that one up in the article.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: mtomni on October 01, 2018, 03:41:02 pm
Never could get through that book.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: pondhawk on October 01, 2018, 04:10:12 pm
I can't blame you. I did make it all the way through, but once was definitely enough.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on March 17, 2019, 08:10:03 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/03/13/education-in-the-weyrs-and-beyond-dragonflight-part-two/
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: pondhawk on March 18, 2019, 05:16:13 am
Interesting read.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on March 18, 2019, 04:53:28 pm
All that toxic gender roles stuff is the reason I don't read the books anymore. As much as I absolutely loved them when I was younger, the way women (and lower ranked men) are treated just makes me too angry.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on March 18, 2019, 06:09:44 pm
The whole "drudges" thing!
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on March 18, 2019, 08:16:34 pm
Yeah -cringes-
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on March 27, 2019, 06:59:52 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/03/27/putting-the-science-back-into-fantasy-one-hint-at-a-time-dragonflight-part-three/
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on April 10, 2019, 08:50:32 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/04/10/the-constraints-of-time-travel-dragonflight-part-four/
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on April 24, 2019, 07:09:24 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/04/24/queer-relationships-in-pern-dragonquest/
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on May 22, 2019, 07:31:56 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/05/22/defending-kylara-dragonquest-part-three/
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on June 05, 2019, 07:09:15 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/06/05/a-return-to-environmentalism-dragonquest-part-four/
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: wolvin.mm on June 06, 2019, 04:50:45 am
I have just reread "Moreta" and "Nerilka's Story". They play at the same time, but are told from different perspectives. "Moreta" is all right, but Nerilka, mwa.
I used to love all her stories, but I think I have grown more critical. I still like the Pern stories, but Anne McCaffrey is not my favourite author anymore.
And I don't like the books written by Todd. I quit the series after a few of his.
My laptop is namens Helva by the way  O)
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on June 06, 2019, 05:47:59 am
Yes, time travel seems to be his go-to solution to everything.  You made me stop and think, I don't know when I last re-read any of her books.  I was thinking of her non-SF/F book "The Year of the Lucy" a few weeks ago, though.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: wolvin.mm on June 06, 2019, 06:12:15 am
I thought they were badly written (and I am not even a native speaker) and container too many inconsistenties.
I am now wondering if I know "The year of the Lucy". It does ring a Bell, but maybe just because I saw it listed in other books. I do own "The Kilternan Legacy", also non-SF/F, though I wouldn't call it contemporary anymore  :D
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on June 06, 2019, 06:15:58 am
Year of the Lucy has a woman who is mother & housewife, but also a sculptor.  A friend named Lucy either had a very bad breakdown & was institutionalized, or took her own life, so the main character decides to do a bronze statue in her honor. Along the way in the year it takes for her to go from idea to statue, she falls in love with someone other than her husband, and learns some things about what shaped her husband.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: wolvin.mm on June 06, 2019, 06:24:40 am
No, I don't remember reading that, and I have checked my Anne McCaffrey shelf, I don't own it.
It is only one shelf now, with a double row of books.
I gave a part of my collection that I wasn't going to read again away to a very ill person who couldn't do anything but read anymore.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Patti L. on June 06, 2019, 06:27:03 am
That's a good use for books that are leaving the collection.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: wolvin.mm on June 06, 2019, 06:33:03 am
Exactly, it also makes it easier to part with them.
Title: Re: Anne McCaffrey
Post by: Zealith on June 06, 2019, 12:07:26 pm
I loved Pern for so long, but the older I get, the cringier the books become. I think I've only reread Dragon Song and Dragon Singer in the last few years.