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Title: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on August 29, 2007, 06:56:13 am
Another author who, like our Hostess, can write stories that take you away & leave you going, "What?  Wait a minute, I want more!"
She's got a great SF series centering on the Vorkosigan family of the planet Barrayar, although the one that happens first in the chronology doesn't come near either the planet or the family.  It's an award winner called 'Falling Free' about a group of people who were genetically engineered to live in zero g.

She's got a stand alone fantasy called 'The Spirit Ring'.  She may write sequel(s) to it.

There is a series about - well, it's called the Chalion series at the moment.  It's starting point was a history course she took on Spain, but it goes on to a world with 5 gods who meddle in human affairs sometimes.

The series she's currently working on I'd call the Malice Wars series.  The publisher seems to be doing a group title of 'The Sharing Knife', with sub-titles for the individual volumes.  First is 'Beguilement'.  Humanity, while still capable of interbreeding, has largely split into two groups. 'Farmers' and 'Lakewalkers'.  The former are much like thee & me.  The 'walkers have an extra sense & some ability to manipulate the world around them with it.  It is used pretty exclusively to achieve the destruction of gruesome things the 'walkers call Malices, & the farmers call bogles.  Think of Thread from Pern, thinking & mobile.  VERY dangerous.

Her books have some good humorous stuff in them too.  A fair amount of it is dark, but there's enough darkness here that it doesn't feel overdone.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on September 01, 2007, 11:51:21 am
I'm so glad you mentioned her, Patti. She's one of my favorites. Her Vorkosigan series is amazing. I'd heard about these for years before I finally took the plunge. There are a lot of books in the series and I couldn't figure out where to start. It can get even more confusing b/c she has written some of these books out of chonological order - so you can read them either in published order or in chronological order. She also has omnibus editions where two to three books are combined - in chronological order. The latter is how I read them - the omnibus editions. It's one of those series where you might as well get several at a time, b/c you'll want the next book on hand anyway ;)

Here are the omnibus editions (in chronological order):
    * Cordelia's Honor (contains Shards of Honor and Barrayar)
    * Young Miles (contains The Warrior's Apprentice, "The Mountains of Mourning", The Vor Game)
    * Miles, Mystery, and Mayhem (contains Cetaganda, Ethan of Athos, "Labyrinth")
    * Miles Errant ("The Borders of Infinity", Brothers in Arms, Mirror Dance)
    * Miles, Mutants and Microbes (contains Falling Free, Diplomatic Immunity, "Labyrinth")
    * Vorkosigan's Game (contained The Vor Game, "The Mountains of Mourning", "Labyrinth", and "The Borders of Infinity" including the framing story for the collection Borders of Infinity)

Oh cool - I googled her name and found a page of quotations by her (from her books). If you want a quick insight into her books, check it out: http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Lois_McMaster_Bujold/
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on September 04, 2007, 10:34:16 pm
She was GoH at VikingCon several years ago, & I went.  It was fairly amazing for a variety of reasons, including the chance to meet Marion Zimmer Bradley, who was in failing health even then.
One of the fun things about that particular con was that the fan group doing security had made themselves grey & white Dendarii jumpsuits.  There were a couple of people with 'jump pilot implants' including a tiny baby, probably under a year old.
There's some really interesting discussion of the Sharing Knife series at my other forum, & they/we're playing around with a filk to the tune of 'Please Mister Custer', that I think of as 'Please Captain Redwing'.  I'm trying to coax the Lone Gunman into recording it.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on September 05, 2007, 09:52:18 am
I love her Sharing Knife duology, too. She just writes amazing characters.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on September 05, 2007, 03:29:37 pm
She really does.  The discussion of Dag's personality & plans are as intense over there as the ones here about Mercy & her beaus, family, abilities, etc.

I poked through the Dendarii website this morning & saw the outfit that has the official LMB okay to make Barrayaran/Vorkosigan products, including the discontinued 'Vorkosigan liveried butterbug handpuppet'.  They don't have any more, Zap & her kittens got the rest. :D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Mary on October 31, 2007, 11:37:43 am
Love her. My favorite are the two books about Cordelia and Aral Vorkosigan.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: therhoda on November 04, 2007, 08:16:14 pm
I have to say i love her Vorkasigan series, its one of the best "here try this science fiction you'll like it," series i have. I have not gotten into any to her other series they just don't appeal the way The Miles crowd does. Of course shes under contract to write a new Vor book for next year and  I am sending up daily muse prayers that its an Ivan book, they will get an extra offering if they send him back to Cetaganda and he ends up with an haunt bride!
Title: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on April 21, 2008, 04:10:38 pm
I went to post about her and was horrified when I couldn't find a dedicated thread to her!!

She's just frickin' awesome. Insert every possible compliment here. If you google her name and "quotes", you'll find some great ones that are truly insightful. Anyway, her most famous (and long-lasting) series is the Vorkosigan series, mostly following the story of Miles Vorkosigan. Putting this series in order can be an ordeal because Lois wrote some prequels and some novellas in the same universe, but only tangentially featuring Miles, and then her publisher (Baen, I believe) publishes compilations of her books. I have mostly the compilations (because you'll want to know *what happens next!!* when you're done with the previous book. Let's see if I can reproduce it.

Ah ha, Wikipedia has beaten me to it.

Quote
Omnibus volumes:

    * Cordelia's Honor (contains Shards of Honor, Barrayar)
    * Young Miles (contains The Warrior's Apprentice, "The Mountains of Mourning", The Vor Game)
    * Miles, Mystery, and Mayhem (contains Cetaganda, Ethan of Athos, "Labyrinth")
    * Miles Errant (contains "The Borders of Infinity", Brothers in Arms, Mirror Dance)
    * Miles, Mutants and Microbes (contains Falling Free, Diplomatic Immunity, "Labyrinth")
    * Miles in Love (contains Komarr, A Civil Campaign, "Winterfair Gifts")

In fact, Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_McMaster_Bujold) has a great entry on her that does a better job than I could at singing her praises, including the fact that she's won the Hugo award four times, a Nebula award, a Mythopoetic award (for a different series), and nominated (with no win) for the World Fantasy Award.

Her second series is the Chalion series, which is a fantasy series that also has great characterization and plot with complex themes but kickbutt action.

The Curse of Chalion
The Paladin of Souls
The Hallowed Hunt

And then there's her new series called The Sharing Knife, the fourth of which just came out
    * Beguilement (2006)
    * Legacy (2007)
    * Passage (2008 novel) (2008)
    * Horizon (novel) (2009)

These are a bit more romantic, but also deal with the classic Bujold themes of cultural conflict.

Anyway, she's just great and I would suggest that most anyone would love her work.

Here are a few quotes from her work:
"Any community's arm of force - military, police, security - needs people in it who can do necessary evil, and yet not be made evil by it. To do only the necessary and no more. To constantly question the assumptions, to stop the slide into atrocity." Barrayar, 1991

"But pain... seems to me an insufficient reason not to embrace life. Being dead is quite painless. Pain, like time, is going to come on regardless. Question is, what glorious moments can you win from life in addition to the pain?" Barrayar, 1991

"Some prices are just too high, no matter how much you may want the prize. The one thing you can't trade for your heart's desire is your heart." Memory, 1996

"Adulthood isn't an award they'll give you for being a good child. You can waste... years, trying to get someone to give that respect to you, as though it were a sort of promotion or raise in pay. If only you do enough, if only you are good enough. No. You have to just... take it. Give it to yourself, I suppose. Say, I'm sorry you feel like that and walk away. But that's hard." A Civil Campaign, 1999
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 21, 2008, 08:27:59 pm
Coolness?  She's coming to Seattle!  SF Museum Wednesday the 23rd, Thea & I are both going to try to be there, & it's the release party for "Sharing Knife:  Passages".
I'm pretty sure I'll bomb out on photos, the museum seemed fairly dark when I went there the first time, & my camera flash died.
And you all know how awful I am at getting photos from camera to forum.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Taphien on April 22, 2008, 10:18:08 am
Coolness?  She's coming to Seattle!  SF Museum Wednesday the 23rd, Thea & I are both going to try to be there, & it's the release party for "Sharing Knife:  Passages".
I'm pretty sure I'll bomb out on photos, the museum seemed fairly dark when I went there the first time, & my camera flash died.
And you all know how awful I am at getting photos from camera to forum.

Have fun!
Passage is great! I just read it thanks to fictionwise putting it up as a 100% rebate book. Now I can wait till the paperback comes out for buying it dead-tree.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Thea on April 22, 2008, 11:21:36 am
My copy comes tomorrow, just in time to go with Patti and other friends.
I loved seeing Lois last year!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on April 22, 2008, 12:24:35 pm
Patti, I'm so jealous! Even if you can't get pics, I hope you'll give us a description of how it all went :) It's so interesting how Bujold can have such disparate series - a military scifi, a religion-based fantasy, and a romantic fantasy - that on the face of it have nothing in common. Yet when you take into account the themes she places in each book - cultural conflict, authority conflict, power, gender roles, maturation, sacrifice, responsibility, etc. - they are similar. I know I just did that little justice - what other themes have you all seen in her series?

Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 22, 2008, 06:29:06 pm
Overcoming physical & cultural handicaps.
Fighting a lack of self confidence.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 23, 2008, 10:32:00 pm
Just back about 90 minutes from the reading/signing.  Lots of interesting stuff.
She intended the first 2 volumes as one book, but it came in at 217,000 words, so it was broken in half.  That was all she'd intended to write, the love story in a fantasy world.  Romance readers were happy, but the F/SF readers were demanding, "Where's the rest of the story?"  which left her where she puts her characters, with the worst thing possible done to the character/writer.  She'd left the characters happy in their love, but with the major problem continuing, essentially unsolvable (like politics or corruption)  So she was forced to try to solve it.
Hearing her reading, I could almost see the pages, & the way I'd react to reading them, with some small smiles.  But hearing her reading, infusing emotion, I was not alone in laughing aloud.  I'll have to re-read the first 2 to make the humor come out the way she did.
She also said that the next Miles book will take him a couple of years into his future, so I guess the twins will be terrible twos.
And the Chalion/5 Gods series may take a bit longer, the ideas about the Father & the Mother aren't catching her in the gut.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Demeter on April 24, 2008, 06:09:30 am
Patti, thanks for the scoop on the reading - very interesting to know about how the different series will continue. It's good to know she's not letting to of Chalion :)

<sigh>  Wish I had my own personal jet and a full time nanny so I could bop off any time for adventures to meet authors.  ;)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Thea on April 24, 2008, 10:31:58 am
My friend recorded this and has permission from Lois to put it up on her fan site.
My husband is going to help her with the posting and editing of it - so maybe you too can enjoy what Patti and I heard  ;D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 24, 2008, 10:53:38 am
Oh, it came out?  Lovely!  How are you doing today?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Thea on April 24, 2008, 04:45:20 pm
Pretty ragged but I loved the book  ;D
And I had so much fun last night - I love Lois McMaster Bujold!!!!!

And Eric has been eating your cake  :D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 24, 2008, 05:59:27 pm
Hope he stuck one pair of those cupcakes in the freezer for you.

Oh, and partly to stay on topic, but mostly because I remembered it:
one of the questions asked was which, if any, of her books would she want to see/least object to seeing as a movie, and in what style/film school/i don't know what to call it.

She said she thought Falling Free would make a good anime movie.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Demeter on April 25, 2008, 09:49:06 pm
Here's a link to an article about Bujold in the Star Tribune of Minneapolis*St. Paul.

http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/books/18174439.html (http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/books/18174439.html)

The article seems short, but you will see a lot in the sidebar, including a bio, her picture, and links to an audio file of her reading an excerpt from her latest book and some of her discussion about specific books. That last link is several pages on different books.  I have not yet gotten all the way through, but thought I'd post this so others can enjoy too.

Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on April 27, 2008, 01:47:43 pm
Very cool - thanks Demeter!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on May 22, 2008, 09:20:23 am
So I picked up The Sharing Knife: Beguilement. I was curious because you all seemed so positive and loved LMB and I'd never read anything by her before. I couldn't put it down, I started it a few hours ago and just finished it. I'm off to do a book run later to snag the second and third in the series. Curses that the fourth isn't out until '09.  :P

Thanks for the great rec everyone!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 22, 2008, 09:27:48 am
Wow, I'm in trouble now!  That's 2 people in 10 minutes claiming that I'm a pusher!  And in multiple styles of addictive matter.  Here, books, there, chocolate.  And people wonder why I get obsessed over the Wrede QABTCC?  2 (clap) 2 (clap) 2 addictions in one! <BEG>
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on May 22, 2008, 09:31:03 am
Well...if it looks like a pusher and sounds like a pusher... ;)

Seriously awesome book though. Great worldbuiding story, funny, touching and romantic. I loved it.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on May 27, 2008, 03:28:07 pm
Read the Curse of Chalion today. Enjoyed it very much. I picked up a couple more of her books today as well. :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 27, 2008, 03:33:22 pm
Ahh, excellent. 
I'll tell you true, there are 2 of hers that don't thrill me; Falling Free, & The Spirit Ring.  But that's my tastes, you may enjoy the heck out of them.
My oldest sister didn't like the Vorverse, except the 'Imp Mil Everything!'.  I have an urge to get a polo shirt embroidered for her with her name as foreman of 'The Imp Mill', with a water wheel turning out little pointy-eared grinners.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on May 30, 2008, 10:11:44 am
So glad you loved it, Elle. She's such a compelling writer. Every word is so perfectly crafted. I think it's wonderful that she has three different universes that are all wonderful but so different, too.

I'll ditto Patti's comments - those are the only two I didn't particularly care for, either. It's a rare LMB book that I don't inhale and just adore.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: AdrienneEtienneHouseman on May 31, 2008, 02:57:38 am
I love Bujold's books.  Though I haven't been able to get myself through her fantasy, it just doesn't appeal to me as much as her science fiction.  But then, I adore Miles as a character, which may have something to do with it.  I fallen behind in the Vorkosigan stories though...  I've still read most of them.  And they are books that I can read again and again and again.

The fantasy that she has written doesn't hold quite the same appeal to me.  But maybe I just need to force myself through one of the books to get myself hooked. :)

AEH
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 31, 2008, 09:13:19 am
Well, as you can see by what we've written before, the subjects/settings of her fantasies can dictate whether you like them.  Now, the 3-700 year back Italian setting of "The Spirit Ring", I think threw me off, I didn't get into it.  But the Chalion series is not this world, although some of what she used to create it was a class in the history of Spain during the Inquisition.  And the "Sharing Knife" series are still being debated as to whether they're fantasy or sf.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: AdrienneEtienneHouseman on May 31, 2008, 04:03:38 pm
I started reading several of her series other than the Miles books, and I felt that it just didn't fit her style as well.  Maybe I've just come to associate her style with the Miles books.  The setting isn't such that it should bug me...

AEH
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 31, 2008, 04:41:36 pm
Well, that's sure possible; I like Isaac Asimov's mysteries, but the rest of his SF & F just doesn't do anything for me, and I have to pick & choose the other things he did.   Some of his short science essays I can deal with, because there's not time for him to get too elaborate, or scientifically detailed, beyond my understanding, but I haven't in 30 years of sporadic attempts been able to read the Foundation books.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on May 31, 2008, 08:00:38 pm
Out of all of the ones that I've read, The Sharing Knife books remain my favorites. :) Soon, though, I will know of this Miles that everyone refers to. I've picked up two new books. One that features his mother in two stories and one called Miles in Love that has three Miles books in it. A lot of books for the price of just two of them...how could I resist. ;)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 31, 2008, 08:57:21 pm
How, indeed?  Do read "Cordelia's Honor" first.  You can (and I did, if I recall) plunge in to Miles' stories cold, but you feel like you're getting so much more out of them with the references to events in the first two books, that show who his parents are, and how he came to be in the position he's in. 
And keep your forward momentum, eh?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: AdrienneEtienneHouseman on June 01, 2008, 12:06:59 am
Yes, read Cordelia's Honor first!  They are all awesome books, but reading the books about Cordelia first is the way to go (for one you get to laugh and say "I know where Miles got that").

AEH
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: pup on June 03, 2008, 07:23:13 pm
Bujold rocks
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on June 03, 2008, 07:34:07 pm
Welcome, Pup!  Have you read Passages yet?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on June 03, 2008, 10:19:25 pm
I loved Cordelia's Honor. The Miles books were good and I enjoyed them but of all the LMB books I've read they're not my favorites.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: pence on June 04, 2008, 02:34:40 pm
I found the Sharing Knife books fun but much lighter than her other books.  The theology in the Chalion books is fascinating.  I've noticed that Paladin of Souls resonates more with my older friends - those of us who have gotten to that 'that book is closed, how do I figure out the new plot of my life' stage!
These three books made me realize that her stories all have betrayal (s-large and small) as an underlying theme.  Once it hit me with these, I was able to go back and see the thread in her other books.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Thea on July 07, 2008, 08:21:48 pm
I personally can't wait until she gets back to the world in Challion.
I am especially sad that she can't get the woman who read Paladin of Souls for any more books, as she died in a terrible accident here in Washington State.

I like the Sharing Knife, but I don't feel the deep connection in them that I have felt in her other books.

I do agree that betrayal is a deep theme.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on July 07, 2008, 09:04:08 pm
Was that the woman who drowned in her cellar when the flooding hit last winter?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on July 08, 2008, 12:36:57 pm
I'm confused - who is this woman you're talking about?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Thea on July 08, 2008, 02:54:29 pm
Patti L - Yes,
Cerulean -
Kate Reading was the reader's name. She was caught in the flood when it came up in her basement.
This page has her reading
http://www.blackstoneaudio.com/search.cfm?search=paladin+of+souls
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on July 08, 2008, 07:36:00 pm
Oh, you're talking about the person who recorded the audiobook - I couldn't figure out what was so special about one reader out of thousands!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on July 08, 2008, 07:43:32 pm
Sorry, Cerulean.  That made the local news, so Thea & I had a common referent that you didn't.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: mdauben on July 19, 2008, 10:03:18 am
I really like Ms. Bujold's SF Vorkosigan books and the main character of most of them (Miles) has to be one of the more original male leads in science fiction.  The only other thing of her's I have read are the first two Sharing Knife books, which I have to admit I didn't enjoy as much (I have not even gotten around to picking up the third book (Passage) although I may once the less expensive paperback edition comes out.  I just don't find the characters of these books as engaging as those in the Vorkosigan series.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on July 19, 2008, 10:29:10 am
Well, they don't have as much to overcome, but they engage me.  I also recommend the Chalion books.  Couldn't get into "Spirit Ring" myself, although a lot of other people liked it.  Come to that, I couldn't get into the award winning "Falling Free" either.  But hearing her reading from Passages made it pop, much funnier with her emphasis behind it.  I'm making a leisurely re-read of Beguilement now, and it's even funnier with the memor of her voice to bring it more to life.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on August 14, 2008, 03:15:47 pm
As reported on by Smart Bitches here (http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/lois-mcmaster-bujolds-denvention-3-speech-full-of-awesome/#com), apparently LMB is working on another Vor book featuring Miles :) two years after Diplomatic Immunity.

click here (http://lists.herald.co.uk/pipermail/lois-bujold/2008-August/015051.html) for a summary of the first few chapters.

Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on August 14, 2008, 03:19:36 pm
Latest from WorldCon is that it's a little later than that, there are 3 or 4 children under 5!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on August 14, 2008, 08:44:27 pm
Shame, Patti, for not telling us about this!! :)  :-* What have you heard about this? I'm dying to know ...
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on August 14, 2008, 08:59:15 pm
Why, let me check what's on her very own area of Baen's Bar & get back to you.

Are you interested in Dag & Fawn, too?

http://lists.herald.co.uk/pipermail/lois-bujold/

This is the address I found for where the info lurks.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on August 15, 2008, 11:17:55 am
Yes, I am definitely interested in all things LMB. But that link is a lot to look through - any way of narrowing it down?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on August 15, 2008, 11:37:58 am
I'll see what I can find when I get home tonight, don't want to tie up from the work computer.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Staplegun on August 15, 2008, 10:18:56 pm
Question: (caveat: this might already have been answered) Is Cordelia's Honor a combination of both Shards of Honor and Barrayar? I have been trying to find Shards of Honor, but haven't managed to, and someone told me this was both...was just trying to check it out with you guys before I attempt to find it :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on August 15, 2008, 10:21:29 pm
Yes, C'sH is the omnibus of Cordelia's story.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on October 19, 2008, 05:19:38 pm
I've read the Chalion series and really enjoyed it. And the Vorkosigan series is definitely on my TBR pile.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Thea on November 04, 2008, 10:34:53 am
She had appendix problems which delayed her next Vorkisigan novel.

But the last of the Wide Green World series, is coming in January!!!!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on November 12, 2008, 07:59:12 pm
Yeah. I just saw the new cover for Horizons. Nice. Cannot wait for this story. I gave Beguilement to a friend and sucked her into the LMB world. :D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on November 12, 2008, 08:08:44 pm
bwah hah hah hah!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on November 29, 2008, 04:07:22 pm
From http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061375361/The_Sharing_Knife_Volume_Four/index.aspx


They also have a new countdown widget.
For Sharing Knife #4.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Staplegun on November 29, 2008, 11:28:29 pm
hehehe it comes out on my birthday...another use for the countdown widget xD
Mayhaps I'll get book 3 and 4 both then.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on December 01, 2008, 07:57:06 pm
Only a few days before my birthday! <grin>
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Staplegun on December 01, 2008, 09:21:19 pm
welp nope, just got three...it was good :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on December 03, 2008, 01:44:59 pm
Has anyone read The Vorkosigan Campanion yet?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on December 03, 2008, 07:24:29 pm
Not I. Baen's shows some people getting mis-bound copies; be wary of that.
However, there's also some appreciation of the previously unread material in it, including interviews with the author & Toni Weiskopff (whose name I'm probably mangling), the head editor at Baen, that publishes most of hers.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: pence on December 04, 2008, 01:13:25 pm
Her LJ lists the pages to check for - As I recall it goes to page 58.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on December 04, 2008, 02:09:16 pm
good to know. It's on my list, but further down. I might not attempt to purchase it until I see if I get a BN gift card :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on December 20, 2008, 11:23:06 pm
So... the Vorkosigan series looks good. But where do I start? I can't seem to find any orderly list to follow.
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Post by: Patti L. on December 20, 2008, 11:29:33 pm
It's not a bad idea to do them in chronological to the timeline order, in which case you'd start with "Cordelia's Honor", an omnibus of "Shards of Honor" and "Barrayar".  Newer editions of this or any of the others will have timelines in them, at the back.  "Warrior's Apprentice" is the first starring Miles himself. 
There are several omni- volumes out now, combining the same general books in different ways, so be wary of that.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on December 20, 2008, 11:32:51 pm
Thanks! That gives me somthing to work with ;D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on December 20, 2008, 11:35:12 pm
I actually just found this website. Is this a good order to follow? It starts with the sam order you mentioned.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/b/lois-mcmaster-bujold/ (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/b/lois-mcmaster-bujold/)
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Post by: Patti L. on December 20, 2008, 11:47:51 pm
They seem to be listing some other order; Ethan of Athos HAS to come after "Warrior's Apprentice", because (mild spoiler here) Elli Quin couldn't have been in love with her "Little Admiral" if she hadn't met him in WA.

Oh, and speaking of chronology - "Falling Free" takes place a couple hundred years earlier, and nobody from any of the planets in later books is involved in it, but!  Someone from QuaddieSpace has a recurring role in the MV books.  I couldn't get into it, but your mileage may vary.  It did win a Nebula, after all.  So look for timelines in the books, not off this website.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on December 20, 2008, 11:58:16 pm
Sounds good. Thanks!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Staplegun on December 27, 2008, 09:50:45 pm
*spoilers (Young Miles) + rant*



Why'd she kill of Bothari?! He was my favorite :( Who's going to be ruthless and psychotic now? I wish he had had his own family like he envisioned it.
[/end rant]
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on December 27, 2008, 09:57:03 pm
Wait.


Meet Mark and the Black Gang.

You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on December 27, 2008, 10:06:59 pm
The Sharing Knife/Horizon in a month. Very excited. :D I'm really looking forward to that book.
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Post by: Patti L. on December 27, 2008, 10:28:46 pm
Me too.  Metoometoometoometoo.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: e_booklover on January 06, 2009, 11:31:40 am
My Mom introduced me to her over Christmas...I read every one she had at home and got some of the others to read once I got back.  Still trying to get them all but I am wondering what took me so long to get started.  In the back of one of the Omibuses there is a chronology I think in Miles, Mystery and Mayhem.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 06, 2009, 01:27:26 pm
The chronologies started being added several volumes back.  Fortunately, what she's been putting out in that universe lately is following Miles as he matures, so you don't have to backtrack.  If it's in a chronology, it's already happened to him.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on January 06, 2009, 10:37:10 pm
I'm trying to save some of my gift cards for Horizons and Bone Crossed...but I am weak and keep buying books. It's only 20 more days until Horizons! I think I need an intervention.  :P
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 06, 2009, 10:46:25 pm
I'm not going to be much help; I've scored an ecopy.  Free.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on January 06, 2009, 10:53:16 pm
*whimper* How did you manage that??
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 06, 2009, 11:05:32 pm
Hanging out at her forum in Baen's Bar.  Somebody found that the more he bought, the better the rewards he got.  He made money by giving away 6-10.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on January 06, 2009, 11:13:59 pm
I shall strive to not be jealous. Striving...striving... :P
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 06, 2009, 11:45:04 pm
More to the point, join up at Baen, silly!   Several of their authors post from daily to weekly in their dedicated areas.  Others, not so much.  Wen Spencer hasn't been heard from in months, and Spider Robinson - umpf.  But Ms. Bujold is on every week or two, depending on her health & state of house remodel or whatnot.  Sarah Hoyt is very active in the Diner, Mike Williamson is on and kind of mean in my opinion in his area.  And others.

And sometimes people get a free websubscription they can give away.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on January 08, 2009, 10:48:43 pm
Yeah, like I have time for another forum.  However, I may just have to suck it up and hit the Baen site for LMB.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Taphien on January 09, 2009, 04:29:08 am
Sneak peak into Lois Bujold's fourth Sharing Knife book "Horizon":

http://browseinside.harpercollins.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061375361
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on January 09, 2009, 01:06:43 pm
Wow - that's great! I can't wait to read the whole thing!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Staplegun on January 09, 2009, 05:31:25 pm
me too cerulean! but grr at hardback prices :P
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on January 10, 2009, 01:57:27 pm
me too cerulean! but grr at hardback prices :P

I know! I cheated and read the last one in-store; I'll probably do the same for this one. But I go back and buy it when the book comes out in paperback, which is what I did last night for book #3.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Has on January 12, 2009, 06:14:18 am
I am going to cross post this at Odds and Ends - but Eos is offering Beguilement as a freebie online for a whole month to any newbies-

http://nicemommy-evileditor.com/blog/?p=2034

More info found there :D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on January 14, 2009, 10:57:33 pm
I just read the first and second Sharing Knife. They are awesome!!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 14, 2009, 11:11:42 pm
I'm having trouble getting hold of the free ebook 4 I was offered.  whimper.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on January 14, 2009, 11:17:22 pm
Oh that is a let down!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on January 16, 2009, 09:07:15 pm
Ten days. :D

I've been rereading the previous books to get me in a Spark/Dag frame of mind.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on January 19, 2009, 03:41:28 pm
Me, too.  When I ordered my books from SFBC.com, the website said the book was ready to ship (Bone Crossed is supposed to ship on my birthday).  I'm hoping I'll get it before I take off on travel Thursday.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on February 06, 2009, 06:30:04 pm
I picked up Horizons today. Woot!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on February 06, 2009, 07:13:40 pm
Me too! Now I have to find time to read it ;D
I also just finished Young Miles. Love it! Sci-fi with space travel and so on is not usually my thing but this was awesome!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on February 06, 2009, 08:16:46 pm
*bookpusher gloat*
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ArtAngel on February 06, 2009, 08:19:21 pm
Yes, you did an awesome job bookpushing ;D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: e_booklover on February 07, 2009, 11:57:15 am
I picked up Horizons today too...hmmm and I have been steadly working my way through Miles' adventures...my wallet thanks you Patti...really it does  ;)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Elle on February 07, 2009, 04:17:04 pm
I just finished the book. It was a wonderful read.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on February 07, 2009, 06:53:19 pm
I picked up Horizons today too...hmmm and I have been steadly working my way through Miles' adventures...my wallet thanks you Patti...really it does  ;)
I'm sure it wanted to lose weight, and I made that happen, so I'm sure you're telling the truth! ;D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: e_booklover on February 08, 2009, 07:18:50 am
ROFL *sigh* ok I admit it you are right as always :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on February 09, 2009, 10:38:06 am
My copy came while I was gone on travel.  I finished all my reading material, and was looking forward to spending some quality time with LMB's latest over the weekend.  Unfortunately for me (on several levels), my hubby's back started acting up on Friday, and he snagged the book while I was at work!  I didn't beat on him, since he was feeling poorly...
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: pence on February 09, 2009, 03:32:48 pm
He still owes you.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on February 10, 2009, 10:08:50 am
Nah, now he's coming down with a full-fledged cold on top of the sore back.  Coupled with watching the active 4-year-old boy, that's a heavy burden.  Yes, he caught the cold from the 4-year-old, in case you were wondering.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on February 10, 2009, 11:20:42 am
Yes, he caught the cold from the 4-year-old, in case you were wondering.

Quelle surprise!

Not.

Oh, I just remembered what I meant to add to the naughty corner, about passing illness around. <snicker>
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: e_booklover on February 16, 2009, 03:28:53 pm
The SB have convinced a young man to try Bujold's books as an entry into romance.  He found the first Sharing Knife book and has posted his thoughts about it through Chapter 3.  If you have already read it you will find it amusing I think.  And if you haven't read it good intro...

http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more-men-reading-romance-scrinnameless-discovers-bujold/ (http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more-men-reading-romance-scrinnameless-discovers-bujold/)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on February 17, 2009, 10:20:27 am
The SB have convinced a young man to try Bujold's books as an entry into romance.  He found the first Sharing Knife book and has posted his thoughts about it through Chapter 3.  If you have already read it you will find it amusing I think.  And if you haven't read it good intro...

http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more-men-reading-romance-scrinnameless-discovers-bujold/ (http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more-men-reading-romance-scrinnameless-discovers-bujold/)

Ha- I just saw this yesterday! Very interesting :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: e_booklover on February 27, 2009, 04:13:35 pm
Here is the link for his continuing comments from Chapters 4-10 http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/scrinnameless-and-the-sharing-knife-chapters-4-10/ (http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/scrinnameless-and-the-sharing-knife-chapters-4-10/)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: dixiehellcat on May 11, 2010, 07:20:13 pm
The SB have convinced a young man to try Bujold's books as an entry into romance.  He found the first Sharing Knife book and has posted his thoughts about it through Chapter 3.  If you have already read it you will find it amusing I think.  And if you haven't read it good intro...

http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more-men-reading-romance-scrinnameless-discovers-bujold/ (http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more-men-reading-romance-scrinnameless-discovers-bujold/)
LOL! Exactly what I was looking for. I've never read any Bujold but found all 4 Sharing Knife books at the used bookstore last weekend & invested some swap credits in them. Flipping thru vol 1, it reminded me a bit of Orson Scott Card's Alvin books, which I really liked. So here goes on another new author! (new to me anyhow. hehe)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 11, 2010, 07:54:28 pm
This is an interesting change up for her; a sort of cross between historical, fantasy, and SF.  She's done fantasy with a (or an) historical basis before, "The Spirit Ring" (not a favorite of mine) and the "Chalion" or "Five Gods" series that currently consists of of the three books, "Curse of Chalion", "Paladin of Souls", and "The Hallowed Hunt".  And she's done Science Fiction; all the "Vorkoverse" books.  Chronologically in that world, it starts with "Falling Free".

It's all very, very, very character driven, although  at least two of them meet a classic definition of SF by having a technological element that is key to the story, so it couldn't exist without that element.

And I'll add, after getting to hear her read from the fourth volume (or was it the third?) a while back, I can tell you that while it's dryly amusing on the page, when she reads out loud, it's 8 times as funny.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Varg on May 12, 2010, 01:26:31 pm
:-Love all her books that I have read so far. I happened to find Shards of Honor and Barrayar when I was on holiday in New York many years ago and have been hooked ever since.
Have yet to read the Spirit Ring though although I have read the Five Gods series.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 12, 2010, 01:33:04 pm
I don't know quite why that one doesn't suit me, but it just didn't.  It's very much a stand alone at this point, not linked to any of her other work, but there is some buzz I saw somewhere that she might get someone to re-publish it if she promises a sequel, or at least a second book in the same world.

The Five Gods - each book supposedly is about one of the five; but the Bastard, bless him, does tend to creep into all of them; I think it's like they sometimes say in the stories; you have to have the thumb to play off the other fingers.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Varg on May 12, 2010, 01:35:00 pm
It is a long time since I read them, but I tend to agree with you on that.

*ponders a bout of rereading*
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: jackie on May 12, 2010, 01:38:58 pm
I have a deep admiration for writers who can create such a variety of worlds that are so deep, as LMB does.  But what I like best of all are her very engagimg characters.  And her understanding of both the perils and joys of accumulating years.  And her ability to capture the give and take of caring partners, whether spouses, siblings, friends.  While she uses fiction as her medium, her ability to understand protray people truthfully  is wonderful.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on October 24, 2010, 10:56:58 am
Well, the buzz at Baen's Bar over this book is . . . scaryterrific.  Lots of crying at the end mentioned, and some before that.  Hints that this may be the last Miles adventure, although not the last one in the Vorkoverse.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on October 26, 2010, 09:18:09 am
Any hints she might write more in the Five Gods series? After all, there are five gods and three books.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on October 26, 2010, 09:31:15 am
She's said she wants to do so, it's just that nothing has come together in her mind to say "ah-hah!  here's "the Mother's book!"" or whatever.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on October 31, 2010, 09:25:40 pm
And some interesting stuff from Sherwood Smith's blog about "Cryoburn" and the as yet unnamed book about "Ivan, you idiot!":  http://blog.bookviewcafe.com/2010/10/31/heroes-and-miles/
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on October 31, 2010, 11:10:06 pm
"Cryoburn" is a good read. Miles biggest fear happens
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on December 13, 2010, 12:13:31 pm
Am I the only one who feels like this may be the last Miles book in the series?  The death of Count Aral and Miles becoming the new Count seems like a logical place to end things.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Allannah on December 21, 2010, 12:17:45 pm
That seems plausible .....  but no more Miles ????? 

I have to tell you, when I read the end of Cryoburn, I cried and couldn't stop.  And every time I re-read it, I cry again. And then those little snips .... so astute, even in their brevity.  Gregor's little section just broke my heart. 

I would love to see an Ivan book .... my daughter and I think it's about time he got some long term happiness.  We're thinking a streetwise, smart mouthed galactic ..... heck, I have half the thing written in my head!!!!!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on December 21, 2010, 12:24:17 pm
That's what she's working on now, is an Ivan book, according to what she says at Baen's Bar.  She might go back in Miles' life, but I suspect not, she's writing maturing characters as she matures herself.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on January 13, 2011, 10:56:38 am
Then why is she writing about Ivan??? <snrk>  Sorry, couldn't resist.  Yes, even Ivan matures.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: wizardbear on April 01, 2011, 09:21:11 pm
Almost, but not quite all of her work is available for free download here:

http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com/24-CryoburnCD/CryoburnCD/

A couple of her works are also available for free download here:

http://www.webscription.net/c-1-free-library.aspx?SectionFilterID=13

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?Lois_McMaster_Bujold
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Allannah on April 21, 2011, 11:32:10 am
I've got the Cryoburn CD so will get hubby to load it up for me. 
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 27, 2011, 09:00:52 pm
Hey, look, Ivan, the kitteh-trees are in fruit again!
(http://lolcats.com/images/u/07/25/lolcatsdotcomc1mh8qyz68rndc4m.jpg)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Cerulean on April 30, 2011, 09:21:28 am
It's so odd, but I haven't read Cryoburn yet. I think it's because it's been SO long since I read the last book that I needed to catch up on that one first. Which I haven't done. So it might be a few more months before I can read it. Grr.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: SCoutts on June 22, 2011, 06:53:23 pm
I LOVE her books. I fell in love with the Miles series, and it was because of her that I gave fantasy another try. I had read some bad stuff when I first started (too many men with testosterone poisoning running around on horses) and had unfairly written off the genre. But Lois can write any genre and make you a fan.  Thanks to her I gave other fantasy another try. And one of authors I found was Patricia Briggs and her Hurog and Raven books.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on September 26, 2011, 06:10:55 pm
Cryoburn pocket size paperbacks are out now!

And I was evil... Ms. Bujold commented at her conference of Baen's Bar that she's only about 2 chapters from done with the first full draft, but she doesn't have a title.  She hints that there is romantic comedy, as in "A Civil Campaign"  so I suggested "Love's Labors Lost."
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on September 27, 2011, 08:54:51 pm
Just found some nice links regarding her books.
Spoilers if you haven't read the earlier Vorkosigan books!
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/12/innocent-bystander-some-thoughts-on-lois-mcmaster-bujolds-ivan-vorpatril
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/11/he-isnt-like-anything-hes-the-original-some-thoughts-on-lois-mcmaster-bujolds-aral-vorkosigan
http://philomytha.dreamwidth.org/34151.html
http://vorkosigan.dreamwidth.org/21083.html

One of the regulars posted these at Baen's Bar.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Varg on September 28, 2011, 06:15:28 am
Thanks Patti :) I really liked the thoughts on Aral Vorkosigan.
Title: Re: Ivan's book
Post by: SCoutts on February 05, 2012, 10:47:21 am
I was so out of touch with what Lois was up to; I had no idea she was writing Ivan's book. I can't wait.
Cryoburn seemed a bit of a let down. I'm not sure if it was because there was only Miles in it or because I get enough corporate malfeasance in my everyday life and I don't want it in my escapism fiction as well.
She is an amazing author, so even an okay Bujold book beats 99% of books out there.

If you want to read an excerpt from the upcoming Ivan book then check out these links. Some helpful soul transcribed a reading she did that was on youtube.

Scene 1 - http://philomytha.livejournal.com/37207.html

Scene 2 - http://vorkosigan.dreamwidth.org/21083.html
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on February 06, 2012, 12:51:55 pm
What's Publication date?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: SCoutts on February 06, 2012, 03:48:59 pm
Right now the release date is nov 2012. But Baen often does e-arcs of their books, up to 6 months before the print release. So I am going to keep my eyes open as of April 2012.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on February 06, 2012, 04:03:25 pm
at least arc sample charpters
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on April 25, 2012, 11:17:10 am
Oh the title is Captian Vorpatril's Alliance, due Nov 6 2012. If not srict on Sale it could be early. Amzon has autographed copies for sale.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold - Ivan's e-arc is out!
Post by: SCoutts on June 30, 2012, 10:07:15 am
IT IS OUT! The e-arc for Ivan's book is for sale at the Baen site. I can't wait to read it. http://www.baenebooks.com/p-1678-captain-vorpatrils-alliance-earc.aspx (http://www.baenebooks.com/p-1678-captain-vorpatrils-alliance-earc.aspx)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on June 30, 2012, 10:08:44 am
*drools*
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Varg on June 30, 2012, 10:46:11 am
Added it to my wishlist. :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on July 17, 2012, 09:28:44 am
it is just the first 6 chapters.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on July 17, 2012, 02:35:34 pm
Now I'm glad I missed out.  Not really, I'm just lying to make myself feel better.  :-whistle
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on July 17, 2012, 02:43:26 pm
Isn't that the web-subscription way, first 1/4 first month, second 1/4 second month, final 1/2 in third month?  Or just... "Samples free, but the real crack will cost you"?  It's a business model that seems to work for them, anyway.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on July 17, 2012, 03:16:22 pm
Not sure if I should  LOL or  >:(...
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on July 17, 2012, 03:27:35 pm
Yeah... very Bujold response there.  :D  Me, I'll wait for the complete version, past the ARC stage.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: SCoutts on July 20, 2012, 04:05:44 pm
I couldn't resist. I bought the e-arc that first day. For $15 you get the entire book. I have bought several e-arc from baen, and read the 'official' version. I never caught any difference between the two versions.
It was worth the money for me.
I liked this book much more than the last one, Cryoburn. I am not sure why that one fell flat for me. Other than Miles, it was a new cast of characters, and none of them really jumped out at me. And we were getting enough corporate corruption in the newspapers (still are, for that matter); I need something different in my escapism fiction.
Offering the first six chapters seems like a good model. Get them hooked and ready to open the wallet. Of course, that only works with the good books. 
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on July 21, 2012, 07:20:52 am
gotts to know Scouts,"what was Mama Vorpatrils reaction to the whole thing?
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on July 21, 2012, 09:30:44 am
Remember, either spoiler bars or PM to answer that, so the rest of us don't get told before we get to read! :)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: SCoutts on July 27, 2012, 07:10:27 pm
gotts to know Scouts,"what was Mama Vorpatrils reaction to the whole thing?

In Bujold's own words, this is "Ivan's book". So the real question to ask is 'what is Ivan's reaction to the whole thing.' 
I will say that I certainly couldn't have predicted this book, which is the main reason I loved it.

As for your original question, all I will say is classy but revealing.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on September 04, 2012, 10:30:13 am
http://www.amazon.com/Captain-Vorpatrils-Alliance-Miles-Vorkosigan/dp/1451638450/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_y

The teaser synopsis is very well done, I've got a jones going now!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on September 04, 2012, 01:04:34 pm
Just pre-ordered my copy at sfbc.com!  bOuNcY
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on October 23, 2012, 03:51:24 pm
Re-reading Cryoburn I ran across this paragraph
Quote
For the first time, he wondered how much the news of his own encounter with the needle-grenade had felt like history repeats to his father, if it had triggered unwelcome old memories of the Princess-and-Countess Olivia’s messy death. I must apologize to him for that, when next we meet.

And thought "I wonder when, after the finale of that book, Miles ever remembered this thought, and what further thoughts it might have triggered."
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on November 28, 2012, 09:58:55 am
Driving roommate crazy waiting for Captain Vorpatil's All, faster Amzon, but I just ordered it yesterday.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on November 28, 2012, 01:47:56 pm
Driving roommate crazy waiting for Captain Vorpatil's All, faster Amzon, but I just ordered it yesterday.
I got so impatient waiting for SFBC to clear up my order problem (my credit card was replaced between when I ordered and when they tried to ship), that I ordered the ebook from Baen.  Good read, but I wish the second half of the book were just a tad bit stronger.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: gryphon340 on December 02, 2012, 10:43:19 am
I enjoied the whole Left me wanting more. I hope she writes a another from Ivan POV, like a year after the Arals' Death.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on December 02, 2012, 01:35:30 pm
That might be a good segue from writing about Miles to staying in the Vorkoverse, possibly to continue with Miles' kids later.  Wouldn't it be interesting if straightforward Ivan ended up with the job they were grooming Miles for?  >D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on July 07, 2013, 11:49:01 am
Was taking a course on a particular cruise line's amenities, and came across a typo that made me go "Bwah!" and do a short, hard, laugh.

Concierge Class Staterooms include:

 *   Welcome bottle of sparkling wine
 *   Fresh fruit and flowers
 *   Evening hors d’oeuvres
 *   Personalized stationary for writing home
 *   Upgraded [redacted] tote ba
 *   The use of high-powered binoculars and umbrella
 *   Deluxe pillow menu

They get a genderless Cetagandan imperial servant?  Upgraded, no less?

Bwah ha ha ha!
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Varg on July 15, 2013, 03:21:27 am
LOL LOL
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: ppbwashu on July 15, 2013, 02:16:09 pm
 LOL Tote ba!  LOL <snort>
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on August 20, 2013, 02:53:25 pm
Gregor's wedding?
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7730892288/h3306EBEA/)
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on November 09, 2015, 12:03:20 am
Just discovered there's a novella set in the Five Gods world; an unexpectedly passed on demon from a divine to a young 3rd son of a small estate.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Varg on November 09, 2015, 06:53:52 am
Yes. And it was very quite enjoyable :) I'd lend it to you but the lending option is not enabled. :(
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 26, 2017, 11:17:41 pm
http://www.tor.com/2017/01/23/fanzines-cover-art-and-the-best-vorkosigan-planet-an-interview-with-lois-mcmaster-bujold/?utm_source=exacttarget&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_term=tordotcom-tordotcomnewsletter&utm_content=na-readblog-blogpost&utm_campaign=tor

Also, have you read "Penric's Shaman"?  Follow up to "Lord Penric's Demon".
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: BillG on January 27, 2017, 03:19:51 am
http://www.tor.com/2017/01/23/fanzines-cover-art-and-the-best-vorkosigan-planet-an-interview-with-lois-mcmaster-bujold/?utm_source=exacttarget&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_term=tordotcom-tordotcomnewsletter&utm_content=na-readblog-blogpost&utm_campaign=tor

Also, have you read "Penric's Shaman"?  Follow up to "Lord Penric's Demon".

I haven't gotten into the Penric books. From the interview I loved this quote about a nascent idea
" It rode along as a potential in what I called “Schrödinger’s Cat Carrier” for many years thereafter."
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 28, 2017, 06:52:49 pm
Me too. 
I'd recommend them;  Penric is sort of a predecessor of Foix and the bear, and you get to see some aftermath of Ingrey's story from 'Hallowed Hunt".
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on November 20, 2017, 06:35:24 pm
I've just yesterday - or the day before - finished reading the latest Penric story, and I may need to re-read, but I don't think there was anything that explained how Second Rescuer knew which cell to invade.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on November 26, 2018, 07:50:26 pm
https://www.tor.com/2018/11/26/rereading-the-vorkosigan-saga-captain-vorpatrils-alliance-chapters-12-and-13/
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold - new Sharing Knife novella
Post by: SCoutts on January 03, 2019, 04:08:36 pm
New novella arriving tentatively in late January. Below is reposted from Bujold's goodreads blog.

reposted:
new Lakewalker novella impending
I am pleased to report that I have finished the first draft of a new novella in the world of The Sharing Knife. Functionally a novella, anyway; its length, at the moment, is a tad over 49,000 words, so it's technically a short novel. This falls in an odd limbo in categorization -- the official cap for a novella is 40k or 45k words, but the minimum contractual length for a commercially published novel is usually 100k. (It was 80k back when I started, but word-count inflation has occurred since then.) Since it's headed for original e-publication, I don't have to care, so the main concern is to label it so readers won't charge in expecting something twice as long.

The working title was "Barr & Lily", which is also its subject matter, being a sort of slice-of-Lakewalker-life character study. However, that won't do for the final, since it sounds a bit too much like the name of a tea company. The current front-runner is "Knife Children", but I'm not sure yet if that is going to stick.

It takes place about a dozen years after the events of the tetralogy, but should be perfectly readable as a stand-alone. (Old readers will gratify me if they can refrain from fending off potential new readers by telling them they have to read four other books first.)

I won't claim there's no action, *cough*, but the cadre of readers who process only physical violence as "action" may find a sad lack of climactic boss fights. This story has other kinds of business to attend to.

Once my eyes recover from the final push, there's still some editing and proofreading to go, plus arranging for a suitable e-cover. So I'm guessing publication sometime in late January. I will of course post updates here when things are finalized.

Happy holidays to all --

Ta, L.
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on January 03, 2019, 06:40:21 pm
 bOuNcY  bOuNcY  bOuNcY  :D  bOuNcY  bOuNcY  bOuNcY  :D
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on March 21, 2019, 07:33:55 pm
Oh, I got hold of that... last weekend? And have finished it.  As usual with Ms. Bujold, it didn't go how you expected.

Speaking of which, blog about re-read of her Vorkoverse novel Cryoburn:  https://www.tor.com/2019/03/18/rereading-the-vorkosigan-saga-cryoburn-chapters-19-and-20/
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 06, 2019, 05:34:07 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/04/01/rereading-the-vorkosigan-saga-gentleman-jole-and-the-red-queen-chapter-1/
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on April 08, 2019, 08:42:36 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/04/08/rereading-the-vorkosigan-saga-gentleman-jole-and-the-red-queen-chapters-2-and-3/
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 13, 2019, 08:44:32 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/05/13/rereading-the-vorkosigan-saga-gentleman-jole-and-the-red-queen-chapters-8-and-9/
Title: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold
Post by: Patti L. on May 20, 2019, 08:13:36 pm
https://www.tor.com/2019/05/20/rereading-the-vorkosigan-saga-gentleman-jole-and-the-red-queen-chapter-10/