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Title: Interaction between series
Post by: Spryte on August 01, 2007, 08:44:06 am
I hope there is a little interaction.... not to much, but some.
Title: Interaction between series
Post by: SF on August 01, 2007, 09:37:01 am
It would great to at least have Mercy meet Anna I would love to see that
Title: Interaction between series
Post by: Spryte on August 01, 2007, 04:47:56 pm
ooooh....
Title: Interaction between series
Post by: Grey Drakkon on August 01, 2007, 04:59:33 pm
Apparently in the May chat Patricia wrote: I don't know if Mercy will show up in the Charles and Anna books. Just getting started with the first one :-P

   However, that was a few months ago, so maybe she's thought on it a bit more.  I think she said she'd like to in a later chat, but I can't find it now. :P
Title: Interaction between series
Post by: jenglows on August 01, 2007, 05:22:02 pm
I think that there would have to be some interaction because the characters are so closely involved.  Both Bran and Charles were in MC and BB, so I'm sure there will be overlap somewhere.
Title: Interaction between series
Post by: Spryte on August 01, 2007, 05:43:22 pm
to some extent overlap is unavoidable... in the exerpt I read, Charles mentions both Sam and Bran, so some one is going to show up.
Title: Interaction between series
Post by: Spryte on August 02, 2007, 06:10:41 pm
And he is so.... normal seeming ;D, you would never guess that he controls the US were population :o...
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Cole on August 11, 2007, 07:23:10 pm
Patty never said anything about Anna in the Mercy series i dont think
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: deva on August 13, 2007, 03:43:25 pm
I can't really remember, but I don't think BB mentions Charles going to Chicago or anything that happened there and I do not recall Anna or an Omega being alluded to in either BB or MC.  Towards the end of MC Bran does mention Charles in Chicago though and confirms to Mercy that it was Leo's pack that had changed Mac.  He also mentions to Mercy that Charles was unable to speak with Leo's second as he had left town (a bit different from the story in Alpha and Omega, but oh well no biggie) At least I think that is what I remember of that conversation.
In AO Sam is mentioned and Bran does make an appearance, my favorite of him so far.   :D
I am pretty sure Patty mentioned in some other discussion that Mercy will not make an appearance in at least the first Charles/Anna book though she may be mentioned.  She does say that Sam will make an appearance in the Charles/Anna books.  (This is what led me to believe Mercy's choice is Adam but I digress).
I look forward to more Bran though since he is the Marrok and the Charles/Anna series should be more about the Pack rather than about someone avoiding the Pack.   ;)
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Cole on August 13, 2007, 04:26:21 pm
i wonder if Anna will transfer to the Marrok Pack
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Mike Briggs on August 13, 2007, 06:13:50 pm
This is Patty.  Mike let out a hoot of glee and said, "They caught you!"  So I came running.
But I don't think so  ;D
I haven't looked it up (and I'm making dinner (at 9pm our time, poor kids) ) but if it reads that Charles hadn't been able to contact Leo's second (and  I think that's right), it is certainly true.  Remember Leo's official second is one of the wolves that Leo killed.
 -- Patty -- She who is going to have to keep on her toes to keep up with you folks!
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Cole on August 13, 2007, 06:48:39 pm
thanks for clarifying
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Patti L. on August 20, 2007, 03:40:35 pm
It occurrs to me that whoever Mercy chooses, (if she does indeed pick a were, heh heh) she would then be under the Marrok's authority for real.  And that would make her available (supposedly, she'll still have her coyote sneaky self will) to go places & find out things for Bran.  There are plenty of places where a coyote can slip in & out but even the smallest (adult, anyway, what about Kara?) werewolf couldn't.  And people who might be on the lookout for the (now known to exist) werewolves wouldn't think to look twice at a coyote.  Her lack of vulnerability to silver wouldn't hurt any either.  She, Anna, & Charles, with their non-standard abilities would make quite a team of investigators/agents provocateur.
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Iris101 on August 25, 2007, 05:55:28 pm
If you think about it Mercy is more vurnable to silver than the werewolves are because it just slows how fast werewolves heal.  So they'll probably still be faster healers.
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Patti L. on August 25, 2007, 07:31:51 pm
I may be wrong, Iris, but I don't think she's MORE vulnerable to silver.  No, she doesn't heal any faster than a normal human the way werewolves do, but it doesn't poison her to even touch, the way it does weres.  Or have you forgotten her little lamb?  Silver, if I'm not mistaken.  And if I am, then there's still the silver on the harness Stefan strapped her into at the beginning of Blood Bound. 
As far as I can see, for Mercy, shot is shot, lead, silver, copper, or depleted uranium. 
If the bullet stays in a were, he/she will die of silver poisoning.  Mercy won't.
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: jenniwee on August 29, 2007, 05:48:49 pm
I think the issue is less her vulnerability to silver (or lack thereof) than her excessive vulnerability to bullets and knives.  Unless Patty changes certain aspects of Mercy's abilities, she doesn't have the super healing the weres enjoy.
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Patti L. on August 29, 2007, 07:15:41 pm
Well, she's no more vulnerable than any normal human usually, & less so as a coyote simply because a smaller target is harder to hit.
Although, come to think of it, does that mean that if she's shot in that form (or cut, etc.) & changes back, the wound expands to match her rise in mass?  Does that give her a greater chance of bleeding to death?  Hmm.  Now you've got me. :D
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Iris101 on September 01, 2007, 10:22:42 am
I think they would expand...In BB when she turned back to human after she went out with Stephen, wasnt she covered in bruises and stuff?  So if they didnt expand she would of had a lot less.
Sorry its kinda hard to put what Im thinking into words :S
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Patti L. on September 01, 2007, 06:36:09 pm
You're right, Iris.  The proportion of the injury is the same from one shape to the other.  If she for instance burned (owowowowow) all the skin off a paw as a coyote, she'd burn all the skin off the hand as a human.
Title: Re: Interaction between series
Post by: Grey Drakkon on September 01, 2007, 06:38:23 pm
You know, its kinda funny, because in one book I read a character got stabbed, and they transformed him to something larger so his wound would be proportionately smaller on him (just a flesh wound rather than a blood-gusher).
Title: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: ladylynx on April 05, 2010, 10:09:03 am
Mike, Your comment about Anna and Mercy being in the same novel would be an interesting concept. Anna is more reserve and cautious about things, where Mercy jumps head first into things mostly. I think Anna would have a calming affect on Mercy as well. Anna doesn't really go looking for a fight or any thing. She only gets her defenses up when someone picks on Charles or tries to kill her. Mercy, well she lives up to the mystical nature of the coyote. She is chaos on four legs. She doesn't need to look for trouble,Cause trouble seems to know where she is at all times.

Putting the two of them together and in some sort of trouble, where their respected mates would have to find them would be a good story line. It would be neat to see Charles and Adam working together to find their mates and swapping stories about them. Comparing the two of them.

I figure by the time the plot is revealed, both women would have defeated their foes and begin waiting for the cavalry to come and  take them home or even join in the fight. Let the guys prove how they feel about people messing with their mates. Setting an example of don't mess with the BIG Dogs. No pun intended there. :)
 
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on April 05, 2010, 12:40:47 pm
Scspeakman took video of Patty at the March 30, 2010 signing at the University Bookstore in Seattle, WA.  In the question and answer period after the reading, she gave information about this possibility, whether Mercy and Anna will meet, have a book, or not.
Here I am quoting part of his post, including the link to the video in six parts from that night.

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I had the pleasure of seeing Patricia at her Seattle WA stop on her Silver Borne tour.  I took video of it for Suvudu.com and today posted it!

You can watch six videos here:  http://www.suvudu.com/2010/04/video-patricia-briggs-event-33010.html
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: wolverine on April 05, 2010, 04:53:33 pm
ACK! for some reason I can't get the volume to play.  WHAT DOES SHE SAY ABOUT A CROSS OVER!!! SOMEBODY TELL ME!!! PLEASE :)
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on April 05, 2010, 04:55:35 pm
You need to have both your speakers & the Youtube player speakers cranked up.

Essentially "No book.  Maybe a short story, but more likely just a short scene posted here on Hurog."
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Zealith on April 05, 2010, 04:59:19 pm
Even with volume on all levels up, and earphones to get the sound close to my ears, I had trouble hearing her too. But she more or less said, she might include a scene where Anna and Mercy meet in a short story, or something just for the website, but she wasn't likely to include it in a novel.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: wolverine on April 05, 2010, 05:01:24 pm
:(  

I understand that these are her characters and her work and she has every right to do with them what she wants to.  BUT!  I wonder why she wouldn't want to do something like when her fan base finds all of her characters soo compelling.  I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way....I"m just curious as to what she's thinking.  I will continue to support her work in any way that I can.  I will continue to be a huge fan of anything I can get my hands on!  I just wonder, is it more difficult to write so many strong characters together at once.....too time consuming...do writes feel like they are letting their audience guide the characters instead of creating their story on their own?

Any ideas Patti L?
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on April 05, 2010, 05:06:31 pm
If you could hear that audio, you'd get it straight from her.
Partly it's the too many strong characters; she feels you would find too much 'her' in the story; and she knows that whatever she did, there would be disappointed readers.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: ladylynx on April 05, 2010, 05:46:43 pm
True!, but each of those characters have unique qualities about them, that would be interesting to see together. Charles and Adam working together to find or defend their mates. Plus, to prove that you don't mess with the BIG DOG'S. Anna proving that you don't pick on the Were-rabbit or her mate. (Sorry!, but I love that nick name for her. It's cute..:) )  Mercy doing her normal stuff of getting into trouble, like she always does.

 Then at the end, the four of them coming together and doing the family bonding thing or Charles picking on Mercy for getting his poor wife into trouble... :)
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Nifty on April 06, 2010, 08:35:17 am
I'm one reader who's not particularly interested in a crossover book.  I would have no problem with a couple scenes here or there, included in either series, or a short story in an anthology, or even a freebie scene posted here at Hurog.  But a whole crossover book?  Nah.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Ellyll on April 06, 2010, 08:54:05 am
Make it two, Nifty.  I'm with you.  :)
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Zealith on April 06, 2010, 09:14:12 am
I agree. A scene would be neat, but I wouldn't want it to be a whole book or even all that important to the plot.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Has on April 06, 2010, 09:18:49 am
Joining the club here too. I think its nicer to have quieter scenes or short story or supporting cameo. But I cant see it working in a crossover book especially when you want to develop characters/plot points.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: charmed on April 06, 2010, 01:42:32 pm
I'm one reader who's not particularly interested in a crossover book.  I would have no problem with a couple scenes here or there, included in either series, or a short story in an anthology, or even a freebie scene posted here at Hurog.  But a whole crossover book?  Nah.

Yep, I agree also. :)
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: CarolKat on April 06, 2010, 01:51:14 pm
I could see maybe Charles and Anna stopping for a night on the way through to somewhere else. Or maybe a brief cameo at Mercy and Adam's wedding.
Wait I just remembered don't they have to do the full moon ceremony or is that just for wolves?
Would they have to go to Bran for that? I could see a brief encounter then.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: wolverine on April 06, 2010, 02:33:59 pm
That would be a great idea!  I like it.  I would like to see Boyd and Anna cross paths again too!  I'd like to see how she might handle facing a tormentor like that now that she's overcoming all her fears!
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Varg on April 08, 2010, 07:29:08 am
I'm one reader who's not particularly interested in a crossover book.  I would have no problem with a couple scenes here or there, included in either series, or a short story in an anthology, or even a freebie scene posted here at Hurog.  But a whole crossover book?  Nah.

Yep, I agree also. :)

Me too.

Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Kyria on April 08, 2010, 12:46:17 pm
I'm one reader who's not particularly interested in a crossover book.  I would have no problem with a couple scenes here or there, included in either series, or a short story in an anthology, or even a freebie scene posted here at Hurog.  But a whole crossover book?  Nah.

Yep, I agree also. :)
Me too.
Me three.  I really want to see how Mercy and Anna react to each other... but I think it would be overwhelming to have the both of them together for an entire book.  Not that it couldn't be done well, but there are a lot of drawbacks/issues, and it just isn't necessary... but a short story, or having Anna and Charles come to Adam and Mercy's wedding, or something like that, would be awesomeness. 
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on April 08, 2010, 12:47:44 pm
Oh, how about Charles conducting the full moon mate ritual?
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Kyria on April 08, 2010, 12:55:39 pm
Eery.  Really eery.  LOL
I'm not looking it up (I have to make curtains tonight, and instead I'm online...) but I think Charles is one wolf who really does kind of freak Mercy out.  She knows how to deal with just about all of them, up to and including Bran himself... but Charles I think kind of throws her off.  

Anyway I think I originally got this impression from Moon Called but it was reinforced in SB where Mercy is talking to Charles on the phone and notes how he ALWAYS speaks very deliberately, instead of relying on nonverbal cues when in person.  On the other hand, I also think that talking to Charles about Sam might have helped Mercy see him as a little bit more of a "regular guy" (and that's "regular guy" for someone who hangs out with the top-ranked werewolves in the USA, and has in general an irregular, exciting life).

Other than that, yeah, Charles conducting the ritual? Awesomeness.  ( :-whistle Spooooooooooooky!)
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on April 08, 2010, 12:58:46 pm
He doesn't just "hang out with", he IS one of the top ranked.  And she did learn something about mechanic work from him, when she wreaked Bran's Porsche, remember?
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Kyria on April 08, 2010, 01:16:56 pm
I meant Mercy hangs out with the top ranked. 
And just because Bran made him teach Mercy to fix cars, doesn't mean she was comfortable around him.  I was scared to death of the woman who taught me how to run the one line of the factory I worked at (for a whole two weeks... and then I got a better job with better hours and better pay). 

I don't think she's actively scared of him, just that he kind of makes her uncomfortable because, lets face it, he's a little different.  Like I said, she knows how to deal with just about all of the other wolves, but Charles is hard for her to read. 

Ah, here it is, pg 84 in MC... Mercy tells Charles that Mac "was a good man"
The following paragraph, she says she "always thought he rather despised" her, even though he treated her the same way he treated everybody else.  It seems to throw her off when he offers her comfort instead of just leaving. 
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: dixiehellcat on May 13, 2010, 05:18:25 pm
I have to say, instead of Mercy & Anna in trouble & the guys looking for them, what I've always wished for is sort of the other way round...maybe Charles & Samuel off doing something brotherly & get into a pickle, Mercy goes after Sam & meets up with Anna looking for Charles, and they join forces. Their talents are different enough, but they have some similarities--spunky, wry sense of humor, loyal to those they care for.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Jax on May 13, 2010, 05:25:41 pm
I like that idea! It would be neat to see the brothers work together, or get in trouble together.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on May 13, 2010, 05:28:19 pm
Question of what would catch them, that the girls could get them out of...
Something needing kindness, immunity to silver, the ability to get into a small space, maybe music and a steady head?
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: gryphon340 on May 13, 2010, 05:43:27 pm
greylord fae needing harem of Males
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: dixiehellcat on May 13, 2010, 05:44:43 pm
Question of what would catch them, that the girls could get them out of...
Something needing kindness, immunity to silver, the ability to get into a small space, maybe music and a steady head?
Lord, I have no idea.  LOL I have come to trust Patty though. I have no doubt she could come up with something awesome, should she ever wish to go that route.

ETA to ROFL at gryphon's idea!
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: ArtAngel on May 13, 2010, 10:04:22 pm
greylord fae needing harem of Males

Lol! I can just imagine!  LOL LOL LOL
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Kyria on May 14, 2010, 06:11:08 am
Question of what would catch them, that the girls could get them out of...
Something needing kindness, immunity to silver, the ability to get into a small space, maybe music and a steady head?
Or possibly just determination, patience, and the Walking Stick?
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on May 14, 2010, 06:32:47 am
Well, that wouldn't make me entirely happy.  Both the guys have determination and patience.  The walking stick would be the main character in this scenario, not Anna &/or Mercy.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Kyria on May 14, 2010, 08:30:46 am
mmm good point. 
The other factor we need to put in here is Adam, and probably Ari.  What are the chances that Adam would let Mercy go off to save Samuel without Pack assistance?  And  Ari is a player now, too. Unless Adam is in trouble with Charles and Sam, or Mercy for whatever reason doesn't tell him.

What if the trouble was something that affects dominant wolves, and maybe Bran gets Mercy and Anna involved? Neither Anna nor Mercy would be affected, and Bran seems to have a lot of respect (in his way) for both of them.  And if Adam comes along, he'd get into trouble, too... one more person for Mercy to rescue. 

Guard the wimpy coyote,  pfffft:P.  How about guard the scary alpha werewolf, Adam?
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on May 14, 2010, 08:37:52 am
That, I like!
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: wareyes on May 17, 2010, 03:24:23 pm
Personally I don't want a whole crossed over novel,, more of an honorable mention back and forth or phone calls, even perhaps a "family gathering" of sorts
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Wicked Wisdom on May 31, 2010, 04:04:52 pm
In Silver Borne it said that Mercy had met Anna  and she liked her. When and where did that happen? What did I miss?
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Patti L. on May 31, 2010, 04:07:33 pm
If you read the early part of this thread, you'll find out.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: ironkitten on June 28, 2010, 04:50:51 pm
Oh, I like that thought - the men come save the mates. Although I haven't read the alpha and omega series yet, but with Mercy and her luck with Adam. Poor guy never really makes it in time to save her does he? Anyway that would be neat if they did something like that. I could see a short story though.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: koolgurl84 on September 26, 2010, 10:39:44 am
Are Adam, Sam, Mercy and the gang in the Alpha and Omega series also? bOuNcY


ETA: Title modified. Elle
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: CarolKat on September 26, 2010, 11:42:21 am
No and probably won't be according to chats with Patty.  The A & O characters are mentioned in the Mercy books but the A & O books are behind in timeline.
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Ellyll on September 28, 2010, 05:23:24 pm
That's mostly true, but not entirely.  Sam showed up in Cry Wolf. 
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: koolgurl84 on September 30, 2010, 10:18:30 am
but they are completely behind because its after Mercy brings Adam to Montana...Because in the book it says that Sam is in Washington and going to live with Mercy
Title: Re: A&O/Mercy Thompson Character & Book Crossovers
Post by: Ellyll on September 30, 2010, 02:06:56 pm
Yes, that's right.  The timelines are different.  You can find that all in this thread (http://www.hurog.com/forum/index.php?topic=646.0).